LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.31 (01) [E]

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From: "Roger Hondshoven" <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.20 (07) [E]

I agree that 'gooien' is the word most often used in the General Dutch
variety in Belgium. To my mind, 'werpen' sounds rather stif and archaic. In
Flemish dialects, however, 'werpen' is, next to 'smijten',  is the normal
word.

Best regards,

Roger Hondshoven

> From: Þjóðríkr Þjóðreksson <didimasure at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Language varieties
>
> Hi Ingmar!
>
> like <u>
> >vs
> ><jou>
>
> Gij and u(w) were also very usual among the Hollandic elite f that time.
> Probably they have indeed come there from the Flemish tongues, but that's
> not the point.
> It's about words that 1) do NOT belong to the Hollandic elite language and
> that 2) come from Flanders/Brabant. So it's not about words that they did
> already use themselves, as it's normal that they integrate those in the
> standard language.
>
> <werpen> vs <gooien>
>
> I guess here gooien is your Flemish variant? I haven't uttered the word
> werpen for several years I guess, but I'll hardly write gooien. And I
cannot
> remember having seen it in a book yet! (and I thought I was a literate
guy,
> for my age ;))

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.28 (01) [E/Middelsprake]

It looks almost like the silence AFTER the storm, the last few days,
so quiet it is on the list...

Well, maybe we're all a bit tired, at least I am, and that's a normal
reaction, I guess.

There is this Afrikaans saying, famous in the Netherlands, I'd like to
quote here:
Alles sal reg kom!

Ingmar

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