LL-L "Names" 2005.10.05 (06) [E]

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05 October 2005 * Volume 06
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From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2005.10.05 (04) [E]

Hi, Andy,

could 'hope' in this name be identically with LS: 'Houpen', G: 'Haufen', E:
'heap'?

Greutens/Regards

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

Andy, Glenn, Jonny,

At first I thought this "heap" ("elevation"?) idea of Jonny's might have 
some merit, and I'm still not convinced that it doesn't.

However, there is Old English _hop_ (earliest attestation 1000), as in 
_fenhop_ and _mórhop_.  This is either related to Old Norse _hóp_ of derived 
from it.

Acording to the OED, it denotes:

(1)  A piece of enclosed land, e.g. in the midst of fens or marshes or of 
waste land generally

(2)  A small enclosed valley, esp. ‘a smaller opening branching out from the 
main dale, and running up to the mountain ranges; the upland part of a 
mountain valley’; a blind valley. Chiefly in south of Scotl. and north-east 
of England, where it enters largely into local nomenclature, as in Hopekirk, 
Hopetoun, Hope-head, Dryhope, Greenhope, Ramshope, Ridlees Hope, etc.

(3)  An inlet, small bay, haven

Number one may be related to this "heap" = "clump" idea.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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