LL-L "Etymology" 2005.09.10 (02) [D/E]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Lexicon

Given that an equivalent of Modern German _ganz_ 'whole', 'wholly', does not 
appear to occur in written Old Saxon but does occur in written Middle Saxon 
as well as in a fairly large group of modern dialects, and given that 
equivalents exist in Low Franconian varieties, there seem to be the 
following possibilities regarding the Saxon language:

(1) The word always existed but happens not to occur in extant Old Saxon 
records.

(2) It is a German or Low Franconian loan in Middle Saxon.

(3) It is a German and/or Low Franconian loan borrowed sporadically and 
independently at different times and in different dialects.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Again: the word occurs in certain dialects, while other dialects have _heyl_ 
(<heel>) instead, but more and more overlap and blending of the two seems to 
be occurring lately.

The same seems to be applying to the following emphatic (superlative?) 
phrases:

ganss un gaar (<ganz un gaar>)
heyl un deyl (<heel un deel>)

The first is analogous to German _ganz und gar_.  Old Saxon, _gâr_ has two 
meanings: (1) 'whole', 'complete', (2) '(fully) cooked', of which only the 
second survives.

_Deyl_ (<Deel>) means 'deal', 'part'.  I wonder if in the said phrase it is 
used only for the sake of rhyme or if the phrase has been derived from 
something like _(de(n)) heyle(n) deyl_ '(the) whole deal' = 'all of it' > 
'altogether' (cf. English "the whole deal").

Any ideas on this?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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