LL-L "Language acquisition" 2005.09.22 (12) [E]

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From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
Subject: LL-L "Language acquisition" 2005.09.21 (03) [E]

Dear Ron,

that's what I did miss sometimes:
> I guess another such case seems to be that of Low Saxon in Germany, where
> the absence of orthographic differentiation between /e:/ and /ei/ and
> between /ö:/ and /öü/ is leading learners to miss these difference and
> thus
> to mispronounce words.  (This is the bone I keep picking with Heiko, my
> argument being that a reference work like Wikipedia ought to show the
> differences.)  What happened is that the supposedly god-like Mr. Sass
> proposed an orthographic system that does allow you to make the
> differences
> by means of somewhat unusual diacritics, and native speakers, writing for
> each other, omitted these, since they can pronounce the words correctly,
> and
> the differences are usually clear within given contexts.  This watered-
> down
> version has been used in a couple of dictionaries, which is unpardonable,
> though most dictionaries do indicate the differences in one way or
> another.
> Obviously, since these are phonemic differences, reference and textbooks
> simply must indicate them to adequately serve the learner (including the
> native speaker who needs to look up previously unknown words).
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

Thanks, buddy!

Greutens/Regards

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm

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