LL-L "Names" 2005.09.28 (10) [A/E]

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From: Glenn Simpson <westwylam at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: names

From: Ben J. Bloomgren <Ben.Bloomgren at asu.edu>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2005.09.25 (04) [E]

Glenn,

On place names in the North East of England - a
remarkable feature of the region is the lack of
British place names - many topographical names
survive, i.e. rivers, burns etc, but few actual
settlement place names.

If the place names there are Anglian, then what is
"British?" Does that
refer to the modern UK?
Ben

Ben
Meant British in its original sense i.e. ancient
Britons - don't like using 'Celtic' as this
word/concept is a fairly modern invention, which
Britons never knew and refers to a culture that extend
beyond GB.

Gan canny,
Glenn

PS - Ron understood where you were coming from in your
previous email on this subject.

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From: Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2005.09.28 (03) [E]

Beste Luc:

onderwerp: LL-L "Names"

> What about
> hottentottententententoonstellingstentjesgereedschapskoffertje ?

'Oukei,' mompel hy terwyl hy 'n desperate retireeraksie uitvoer, 'maar ek
sou seer ieder 'n woord wat ten minste nog twee keer gebruik sal word.'

Die Uwe,
Hings.

PS So by the way Jo, wat van die Engelse 'rind' soos van 'n vrug?

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

So you lot want long place names?  You can't handle long place names!  But
I'll give you the three longest ones in the world anyway, even though they
aren't Lowlandic.

Place 3: Welsh (Wales):

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch

"The church of St. Mary in the hollow of white hazel trees near the rapid
whirlpool by St. Tysilio's of the red cave"

Proof: http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/rbeard/gales.jpg

***

Place 2: Maori (Aotearoa/New Zealand):

Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu

"The place where Tamatea, the man with the big, bony knees, who slid, 
climbed and
swallowed mountains, known as 'landeater,' played his flute to his beloved."

(Thank goodness the name of this place, situated at Heretaunga/Hawke's Bay, 
Te Ika A Maui/North Island, is usually abbreviated to 
Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu!)

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Place 1: Thai (Thailand):

The name for Bangkok, its usual abbreviated form being กรุงเทพ Krungthep
(groong2 thaehp13):

กรุงเทพมหานคร อมรรัตนโกสินทร์ มหินทรายุธยามหาดิลก ภพนพรัตน์ ราชธานีบุรีรมย์
อุดมราชนิเวศน์ มหาสถาน อมรพิมาน อวตารสถิต สักกะทัตติยะ วิษณุกรรมประสิทธิ

Krungthepmahanakonbowornratanakosinmahintarayudyayamahadiloponoparatanarajthaniburiromudomrajniwesmahasatarnamornpimarnavatarsatitsakattiyavisanukamphrasit

More precisely (tones: 1=high, 2=mid, 3=low, 13=falling, 31=rising):

groong2 thaehp13 ma1 haa31 na1 khaawn2 a3 maawn2 rat1 na1 goh2 si3 noht1 ma1
hi3 noht1 raa2 yoo1 tha1 yaam2 haa31 di3 lohk1 phohp1 nohp1 rat1 raat13
thaa2 nee2 boo3 ree2 rohm2 oo3 dohm2 raa2 cha1 ni1 waeht13 ma1 haa31 sa3
thaan31 a3 maawn2 phi1 maan2 a3 wa1 dtaan2 sa3 thit3 sak3 ga3 that1 dti3 ya1

"The land of angels, the great city of immortality, various of divine gems,
the great angelic land unconquerable, land of nine noble gems, the royal
city, the pleasant capital, place of the grand royal palace, forever land of
angels and reincarnated spirits, predestined and created by the highest
deities."

So there! I told you you couldn't handle it.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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