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L O W L A N D S - L * 11 July 2006 * Volume 05
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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L 'History' 2006.07.11 (04) [E]

Vlad Lee wrote:
"Why all those things are exactly Dutch? I vaguely remember one explanation I
read years and years ago: shiploads of arrogant Dutch courtiers, their servants
and knechten followed William of Orange across the Ditch to swagger around
London. True?"
 
Perhaps it's also something to do with Dutch commercial supremacy. The Dutch and
the English / British were competing for control of the sea as well. The quickest
slurs to take hold are those to do with persistent rivals.
 
Go raibh maith agat
 
Críostóir.

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From: 'Global Moose Translations' <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L 'History' 2006.07.11 (04) [E]

Vlad wrote:
>To me, it suggested the idea of asking the Lowlanders for plausible clues
to this
>enigma: why on earth English has so many idioms related to "Dutch"? Forget
for
>the moment Irish stews, Scotch fiddles, Welsh groins, or German silver and
French
>letters. Just go Dutch.

Vlad, you forgot the Dutch rub!

Plus the following: Dutch football, Dutch screen, Dutch-me-not... :-)

Actually, I think that some of the "Dutch" expressions on your list may
actually mean German, since Germans were often called "Dutch" (obviously
because they spoke "Deutsch") in America until the end of the 19th century
and beyond, the best-known example being the "Pennsylvania Dutch", who were
actually German.

Unlike the "German chocolate cake", an American dessert that many people
over there think is traditionally a German dish, while no one here has ever
heard of it (its main ingredient is coconut - not many of them grow on
Helgoland, I'm afraid). It is called that because it was invented by a baker
surnamed German.

Gabriele Kahn

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