LL-L "Negation" 2006.06.05 (01) [E/LS]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 05 June 2006 * Volume 01
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From: "jonny" <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
Subject: LL-L "Negation" 2006.06.04 (01) [D/E/LS/V]

Beste Lowlanners,

Piet schreev:
> "Ik hebbe et niet (1) daon Moeke, echt niet (2), warkelik waor niet (3)".
Joo- un dat is ouk de enkelte Wiis, woans dat in uns Dialekt vandoog
bruukt waard;
anners kenn 'ck dat dubbelte or dreyfache 'Nee' alleen van 't
*Ohnsorg-Theater* (eyn
platte Hamboerger Volksboen) ellers van luette Goeren, de Missingsch snackt.

Greutens/Regards

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Negation

Piet and Jonny,

It may well be that this is a naturally spoken sequence, but as far as I
am concerned _Ik hebbe et niet daon Moeke, echt niet, warkelik waor niet_
is not really pertinent to "trible negation," since the string consists of
three sentences, no matter what the punctuation may be.

Correct punctuation:

_Ik hebbe et niet daon, Moeke. Echt niet. Warkelik waor niet._
"I have not done it, Mom. Really not. Really truly not."
I didn't do it, Mom.  I really didn't.  I swear I didn't.

(Punctuation rules are being violated more and more.)

In sentences (2) and (3), _ik hebbe et daon_ ("I have done it") is
implied; i.e., it's slot is left blank.

Heiko (?):

> dat kriggst Du nienich nich trecht

I very much doubt that this is a common construction.  It sounds very
forced to me, though _nie nich_ ("never not") is definitely common.  It's
the second _nich_ that I question.

Cheers!
Reinhard/Ron
(from San Francisco)

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