LL-L "Delectables" 2006.03.04 (03) [E]

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   L O W L A N D S - L * 04 February 2006 * Volume 03
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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2006.03.03 (04) [D/E]

In Hamaland (De Achterhoek) Pot-deur-mekare (lit. "pot-through-eachother")
is something similar.

Ron wrote:
>The original idea of _potsjetegoare_ ("everything
>and the kitchen sink thrown into a pot and cooked up," "one-pot meal") is
>the same as that of German _Eintopf_ ("one-pot") and of Low Saxon
>_mang-koukt-eten_ (<Mangkookteten> "among/mix-cooked-meal").  However,
these
>denote mostly hearty soups and stews that make whole meals, and many
people
>might not consider North German _Labskaus_ one of those.

>Regards
>Reinhard/Ron
>(suddenly suffering from a violent bout of spring allergies ...)

At least you seem to have Spring already overthere, here in NW-Europe we've
had snow, ice and hail already for weeks now, and that's what I am
allergic of... ;-)   Gesundheit!   Ingmar

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2006.03.03 (04) [D/E]


  From: R. F. Hahn
  Subject: Delectables

  .... And it goes without saying that everyone's _Labskaus_ recipe it not
  only the best but also the original version.

  Regards,
  Reinhard/Ron
  (suddenly suffering from a violent bout of spring allergies ...)


This reminds me of couscous in Algeria.  The only person in the world who 
ever made it properly, is/was the mother of whichever Algerian you happen to 
be speaking to at the time.

Paul F-B

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From: Heather Rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.03 (10) [D/E]

Message text written by INTERNET:lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET
>So perhaps the name of this dish originally meant something like "humdrum
make-do fare." <

Could it also be referring to the fact that the stew pot by the fire was
often there day after day, reheated and anything to hand added to it; so
the contents were not clearly defined but just anything going / left overs/
bits   etc

Heather

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Delectables

Ingmar (above):

> In Hamaland (De Achterhoek) Pot-deur-mekare (lit. "pot-through-eachother")
> is something similar.

Right.  _Deur-mekare_ would the the equivalent of _dör(ch)enanner_ in our 
region and of _durcheinander_ in German.  This refers to the result of 
mixing by stirring.

Heather (above):

> Could it also be referring to the fact that the stew pot by the fire was
> often there day after day, reheated and anything to hand added to it; so
> the contents were not clearly defined but just anything going / left 
> overs/
> bits   etc

Possibly so, Heather, though my hunch is that it referred to the particular 
combination of easily stored and thus omnipresent potatoes and preserved 
meat for the usual type of hash, which is what sailors ate pretty much all 
the time, unless they just left a port and got to enjoy fresh ingredients 
and greater variety. They added sauerkraut and other preserved vegetables 
once people realized the cause of scurvy.

Perhaps you had in mind something like minestrone, the ancestor of which sat 
and evolved continually on or above the hearth fire, originally in 
monestaries as food to serve (Italian _ministrare_ < Latin _ministro_) to 
passing pilgrims and the poor.

Paul (above):

> This reminds me of couscous in Algeria.  The only person in the world who
> ever made it properly, is/was the mother of whichever Algerian you happen
> to be speaking to at the time.

Well, I believe it's a universal thing that people believe that the version 
with which they grew up is the only real one, certainly the best one. 
Perhaps it goes back to early humanity when eating unfamiliar things and 
other people's food spelled danger.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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