LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.11 (045) [E]

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   L O W L A N D S - L * 11 March 2006 * Volume 05
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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2006.03.11 (02) [E]

> From: Ben J. Bloomgren <Ben.Bloomgren at asu.edu>
> Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2006.03.10 (04) [E]
>
> "Yes, it's offal, and I think it's a homonym."
>
> Mark and all, is this one of those aw versus ah things? I'm too lazy
> to go get Word and call up the IPA, but is this not the whole
> cot/caught thing? That is, is there an inherent distinction between
> aweful and offal wherein one has the vowel in cot and the other has
> the vowel in caught?
> Ben

Yes,  for North Americans who distinguish it would be an 'awe' versus
'ah' thing. However, for  most of the UK and Commonwealth it's more of a
two different types of 'awe' thing.  The 'ah' thing is found elsewhere.

David Barrow

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Dear Fellow-Lowlanders,

As though I didn't have enough to think about already, I've been thinking 
about the English word "beloved" lately.

While in pretty much all Modern English dialects the <e> in past particial 
<-ed> is not sounded -- including in "loved" [lVvd] -- it is sounded in most 
people's varieties in the word "beloved" [bI"lVvId] ~  [b@"lVv at d] (though I 
have heard some people pronounce it [bI"lVvd]).

What's going on here?  Obviously, "beloved" is a marked item in most 
dialects.  In other words, it is an exception from the usual rule in 
phonological processing.  This phonological marking applies usually, if not 
always, to non-nativized* or semi-nativized* loanwords, I am wondering if 
"beloved" is treated as a loanword, namely as a loanword from archaic 
English, as this word is only used in a non-everyday, poetic or oratory 
style, namely in a different register.

If my theory holds water, this would mean that lexical loaning can occur 
within the same language, though from one variety to another.  We know that 
this can happen between dialects.  So why not between two varieties of 
different time periods?

What do you think about this one, folks?  Furthermore, can you think of 
similar cases, preferably within the realm of the Lowlands?

* Here's an example of stages or levels, all three dialectical versions of 
"garage":
  Non-nativized:  [g@"rQ:Z]**
  Semi-nativized: ["gærQZ]
  Nativized: ["gærIdZ]

** "Non-nativized" means "closest generally acceptable approximation to the 
foreign pronunciation."

Interestingly, this non-nativized version is prevalent in American English, 
while the other two seem to be prevalent in non-American English.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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