LL-L "Delectables" 2006.05.10 (02) [E]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 10 May 2006 * Volume 02
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From: "First name Last name" <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables"

Hi all,

Yes, Ben, I've never found any good black tea in the US
unless it is imported from South Africa or made by Twinings.

My family there order Five Roses, Joko as well as rooibos tea
from the Out of Africa Trading company in Canada. You might
want to try their website:
http://www.outofafricatrading.com/products.asp?subcategoryID=Tea

Regards,
Elsie Zinsser

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From: "Tom Mc Rae" <t.mcrae at uq.net.au>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2006.05.09 (11) [E]

Begin forwarded message:

>  "Ben J. Bloomgren" <Ben.Bloomgren at asu.edu> Wrote
> Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2006.05.09 (09) [E]
>
> And the schnitzel - where does it come from? In Australia in the
> 1950s it
> was called a Vienna schnitzel and consisted of a pan fried piece of
> thin
> veal with an egg and breadcrumb coating. Now it has a batter and is
> deep
> fried.
I recall seeing of on the menu at London's Birkbeck College Cafeteria
in 1956 and receiving a slice of meat pie !
Most confusing.

Regards
Tom Mc Rae
Brisbane Australia
Oh Wad Some Power the Giftie Gie Us
Tae See Oorsel's as Ithers See Us
Robert Burns

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From: "Global Moose Translations" <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2006.05.09 (11) [E]

Ron wrote:
>I know what you mean.  I haven't found a decent American sort of tea yet.
>They all taste muddy or twiggy or both.  Goodness knows what they do to
>it. Yeah, even American Lipton's Tea isn't anywhere as good as its
>relatives elsewhere.

Also, there is no real American "tea culture". Many times, when asked
whether I "would like some tea", I was offered a cup of more or less warm
water straight from the tap, along with an assortment of tea bags - not only
in restaurants, but also in private homes. Seems like most people have no
idea how to brew a good cuppa.

I heartily agree with what Ron said (hear, hear!) about German tea - I, too,
detested tea all through my childhood because it was strong, bitter and
nasty. I learned to like it (especially with milk) as a teenager in
Scotland, where I drank it because it would have been impolite to refuse,
and was pleasantly surprised. Later, I also became a fan of good quality
flavoured teas (in Germany, you can get those in tea shops everywhere; in
the USA, I mainly stuck to Celestial Seasonings).

I have been a tea drinker for well over thirty years now, but I still hate
the tea my mother and sisters brew. How was a poor child to know?

Same thing with cheese, by the way, I also hated that until I was a teenager
and "had" to try it somewhere else. And why? Because all we ever had at home
was Harzer KÃ¤se (very smelly, very strongly flavoured, with caraway seeds)
and camembert (which smells strongly of ammonia). Still can't stand either
sort, at least not "as is" (there's a yummy Bavarian camembert spread called
"Obatzda", where it is thoroughly mixed with butter, onions, paprika and
caraway).

Another thing I refused to even try all my life is "Bregenwurst", "brain
sausage", a very popular, traditional Lower Saxon dish, served with curly
kale. It looked icky to me, and the list of ingredients didn't make it any
more appealing. Well, during my recent hospital stay in Hanover, I finally
ate it, unaware of what it was - and it was just about the best sausage I
have ever had! Now I just hope they don't really put brain in it any more...

Gabriele Kahn

P.S:. The Lower Saxon poet Wilhelm Busch describes "pancakes with potato
salad" as a popular dish, and even wrote an ode to this dish. Seems like an
odd combination to me. Has anyone encountered this "in real life"?

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Delectables

Gabriele:

> Also, there is no real American "tea culture".

This has begun to change, probably due to a combination of wareness of the
health benefits and people traveling to Europe and Asia.  I know a number
of Americans of various ages that drink only tea, not coffee.  Also,
specialty tea shops and afternoon tea rooms are on the increase
(kaching!).  It's more prominent in some areas than in others.  It's
strong here in the Northwest (close to Canada), but I have also seen it
happen in Portland, the San Francisco Bay Area and San Diego.  So it's at
least along the West Coast.  It isn't only urban either.  Tea houses are
now common in rural touristy places as well.  Also, I'm not talking about
herbal tea and spiced tea (which have been around for a long time) but
about "European" black tea and various South and East Asian black and
green teas.  East Asian tea culture is particularly strongly represented
here in the Seattle area and also in the San Francisco area.  There are
now Chinese and Japanese tea shops and tea houses, some of them really
neat.  Also, the South Asian presence here has resulted in chai being a
type of staple around here, at least in certain population sectors.

I know what you're saying about cheese.  I, too, started appreciating
cheese outside Germany.  Harzer KÃ¤se (which is yellowish and gelatinous
as well ... shudder) still is a horror to me.  Its only reasonable purpose
can be to scare kids into submission.

> I heartily agree with what Ron said (hear, hear!)

Miracles do happen, but I've heard of weirder things happening, and our
occasional agreements don't surprise me given that we are really separated
identical twins.  (Darn it! I wasn't supposed to divulge that!)

> P.S:. The Lower Saxon poet Wilhelm Busch describes
> "pancakes with potato salad" as a popular dish, and
> even wrote an ode to this dish. Seems like an
> odd combination to me. Has anyone encountered this
> "in real life"?

Hmmm... Those were the days in which the word "carbohydrate" meant nothing.

This reminds me of a Jamie Oliver (formerly "The Naked Chef") TV show in
which he tries to improve English kids' school "dinners" (= US "lunches")
asks the kids of Durham what their favorite dishes at home are, and one
kid says "potatoes with chips."  ("Chips" are "French fries" in the U.S.) 
Oh, yeah!  Would you like some potatoes with your potatoes?  Sure! Why not
top it all off with a good scoop of mash ("mashed potatoes")?

Cheers!
Reinhard/Ron

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From: "Brooks, Mark" <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2006.05.09 (09) [E]

Hugo asked: "And the schnitzel - where does it come from? In Australia in
the 1950s it was called a Vienna schnitzel and consisted of a pan fried
piece of thin veal with an egg and breadcrumb coating. Now it has a batter
and is deep fried."

Hugo, that shure duz soun' lahke uh chicken frahd steak to me!  An' you
thought CFS meant chronic fatigue syndrome...well, not in Texas.

Mark Brooks

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