LL-L 'Etymology' 2006.11.11 (01) [E]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 11 November 2006 * Volume 01
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From: Heather Rendall [HeatherRendall at compuserve.com]
Subject: LL-L 'Etymology' 2006.11.10 (02) [E]

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Old German has _suoha_ 'furrow' and diminutive _suohilîn_ 'small furrow or
ditch'. Old Saxon has the cognate _sôha_ (which would give modern
*_Soche_ ~
*_Sooch_), which Köbler assumes is a German loan, probably because it is
not
expected *_sôka_ (which would give modern *_Soke_ ~ *_Sook_).<

Could there be any connection here between the above and the 'sike' /'sic'
I wrote about some weeks back

A sike can be either an unploughed headland or an unploughable piece of
land due to wetness or those lands lying eitehr side of a river i.e. too
wet to plough or for example the unploughable land on either side of a
small gully/water course springing up in the middler of field and making
its way to the nearest river/stream.

It would seem too much of a coincidence to have s*h/c/k * all with some
kind of connection to furrow/wetness/drainage etc

Heather

PS What was the Old Saxon s u umlaut h a ?

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Etymology

Hi, Heather!

The spelling of the Old Saxon word is "so^ha" (o-circumflex or o-macron).

It has the same meaning as that of Old German word _suoha_.

The "h" in the Old Saxon one leads one to assume that it was a German loan, since
Old German "-h-" usually corresponds to "-k-" in Old Saxon (e.g., OS _suohan_ =
_sôkian_ > G _suchen_ = _soyken_ (söken) = English _sécan_ > "seek" -- however,
OS _sôhta_ > Modern LS _süch(t)_ = OE _sohte_ ~ _sôhte_ > Modern English "sought").

There could be some distant relationship between _sôha_ (so^ha) and the "sike"
group, though I have found no mention of it.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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