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From: Jonny Meibohm <altkehdinger at freenet.de>
Subject: LL-L "Orthography" 2007.04.21 (01) [E]

 Sandy wrote:

> (Ok, not spilling any was partly luck, but remember W C Fields :)

But you always should bear in mind that he was notorious!

Allerbest!
Jonny Meibohm

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From: Sandy Fleming <sandy at scotstext.org>
Subject: LL-L "Orthography" 2007.04.19 (01) [E]

> From: "Isaac M. Davis" <isaacmacdonalddavis at gmail.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Orthography" 2007.04.17 (12) [E]
>
> On the subject of foreword/forward confusion, Ron wrote:
>
>         Kevin, well, if you put it that way ;-) I guess they are
>         pronounced alike in rhotic American English.  As far as I
>         know, they are not in most non-rhotic dialects; for instance
>         something like "foreword" ["fo:w3:d] vs "forward" ["fowOd] ~
>         ["fO:d], vs something like ["fOrw3rd] in rhotic American for
>         both.  Well, right.  So it's understandable ... but ...
>
> I don't know if this is just personal idiosyncrasy, but I pronounce
> them differently when I'm stressing them; 'forward' receives equal
> stress on each syllable, or possibly slightly more on the initial,
> where 'foreword' is stressed on the ultimate. In relaxed speech,
> though, they are certainly homophones.

In Scottish English these are always pronounced differently, and the
spelling indicates the pronunciation clearly, as is more often the case
in Scottish English.

So just as in "for" and "fore" the former is pronounced with an open "o"
and the latter with a closed "o", so "forward" ['fQ:rw at rd] and
"foreword" ['fo:rwArd].

When it comes to dialects of Scots (rather than Scottish English) the
story's not so simple though. I think the regularity of Scottish English
is maybe symptomatic of the fact that it's a taught language, rather
than one children can be assumed to have brought to school with them.

Sandy Fleming
http://scotstext.org/

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