LL-L 'Etymology' 2007.02.12 (04) [E/LS]

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From: Jonny Meibohm <altkehdinger at freenet.de>
Subject: LL-L 'Etymology' 2007.02.12 (01) [E/LS]

Beste Marcus,

Du schreyvst:

Wi hebbt aver ok inheemsche Wöör op -tje, 'lüttje' to'n Bispeel.

Joo, un mit dit verkrellte Wourd hebb ‚ck miin Perbleym- dat passt amend ne
door mang! Tou froyhern Tiiden hebb ‚ck jümmers glöövt, wat dat ouk van de
hOllanners uut-leyhnt woyr. Nu glööv ick, wat dat woll meyhr van de Süüd
koomt, oostfääl'sch or westfääl'sch.

Ick bruuk dat dorüm ouk all meist gonne meyhr- ‚lütt' rekkt ouk jo.

Man- uns Diminutiv is selten, und denn geiht de woll meyhr opp ‚-i', dicht
bii an't Ingelsche (girl-ie):

Kischi* (little calv or cow)

Bulli* (little bull)

Hundi* (little dog)

(* Greesigen Verdacht- sünd dey v'lich' ouk altohoup gonne van hier?? Ick
denk jüst an ‚Hansi', ‚Mausi' etc...)

Un ick segg Dii eyn Deyl: veel meyhr van disse Soort falt mii sou foors
gonne in...

Hesst Du door noch anners welk van?

Greutens no de Geest ;-)!

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm
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From: Jonny Meibohm <altkehdinger at freenet.de>
Subject: LL-L 'Etymology' 2007.01.30 (03) [E/LS]

Beste Luc and Reuben,

concerning our old thread _*einwiddern*_ I came across another indication.

Our Piet these days wrote:

Ik zal et gaondeweg nog een betien *anvieteren* dan kan et misschien nog wel
es een rellegien wodden...

Mii dücht meist, dat is dat Wourd! Översett in G heyt dat jo woll anspornen
/ aufwiegeln / aufwühlen and some more.

E: ‚to incite someone', in our LS: *wööpsch moken* (to make someone 'waspy')

Isn't it interesting to find the origin of a word I only know from my
East-Prussian ancestors just of all in a LS-dialect (Stellingwarvs) of The
Netherlands?

Of course- e.g. all the diminutives used in East-Prussian-LS point to either
Dutch/Flemish or Westphalian roots. It could perhaps be a legacy of the
mennonites.

And though there are no members in the row of my ancestors over there (going
back only to the end of the 18. century) pointing to any Dutch etc.
connection I remember my granny's words that there was a slight idea some of
them might have come from the West of Germany or even from across the border

So at last I even might be related to our Sandy Fleming...;-)!

Greutens/Regards

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm
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From: Jonny Meibohm <altkehdinger at freenet.de>
Subject: LL-L 'Etymology'

Beste Lowlanners,

today, in a different context, I quoted a word of Piet:

> Ik zal et gaondeweg nog een betien anvieteren dan kan et misschien nog wel
> es een rellegien wodden...

This time it is the word _rellegien_, meaning something like 'tumult' I'm
interested in.
I can't get the etymological background of it, and that makes me always feel
uncomfortable ;-)!
Is perhaps a 'revolution' hiding out here?

Thanks in forward for your answers!

Greutens/Regards

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm
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