LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.09 (04) [E]

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From: Maria Elsie Zinsser <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.08 (03) [E]

Hi all,

And suddenly, while reading your posting, Mark, I remembered another
relative to skoor/skor/skêr/skaar, namely 'skoorvoet' (Hy loop
skoorvoeterig rond om moeilikheid te maak" (walking around looking for
trouble), 'skoorsoek' (looking for trouble) as in 'Die ou man is baie
skoorsoekerig as sy tablette opraak".

Elsie Zinsser

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From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.08 (03) [E]

Beste Ben,

you wrote:

> could this be the origin of the surname Skarsted?
It sounds very Scandinavian, and I guess it has got the same roots. In Old
Icelandic we find *'sker'*, meaning 'cliff', and in German we have 'die Sch*
ae*re', that's an isolated rock sorrounded by water and also survived in
English as 'skerry'.

BTW: all these words point to Germanic *'skur'* and mean *'to cut'* in the
widest sense- in German a pair of scissors is 'die Sch*e*re'.

Allerbest!

Jonny Meibohm

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

   - English: O. *scéar* (sg.) -> *scérero ~ **scéreru ** *(pl.) >
Mid. *schæren
   ~ sheres *(pl.) > Mod. *shears*
   - Scots: *scéar* (sg.) > *shear*
   - Frisian: W. *skjirre
   *
   - Saxon: *skâra *(German *Schere* >?) > *scheyr* (*Scheer ~ Schier ~
   Schiar* ~ *Schea*)
   - Dutch: Mid.* schaer(e)* > Mod. *schaar*
   - Dutch: Mid.* **schaer(e)* > Afrikaans *skêr
   *
   - Norse:* skǽri* (pl.) > Icelandic *skæri*, Norwegian dial. *skjæra *(fem.)
   ~ *skjære *(masc.)**
   - German: O. *scâra* ~ *skâr* -> *skâri* (pl.) > Mid. *schære *> Mod.
   *Schere*, Alemannic *Schär*
   - German: Mid. *schære* > Yiddish שער *sher*
   - > Slovenian *škárje*, Croatian *škare* (cf. Serbian *маказе makaze*),
   Sami *skár'rit ~ skierat* (pl. -*(V)t*), Estonian *käärid* (pl. *-(i)d
   *)

Cf.

   - cf. Old Saxon *sahs* 'short sword', 'long knife' >
*skersahs*'shearing knife'
   - Old English *seax, sæx*, *sex* 'short sword', 'long knife'
   - Old German *sahs* 'short sword', 'long knife'
   - **sahs* 'short sword', 'long knife' + pl. > Danish *sakser* (pl. *
   -er*), Faeroese *saksur* (pl. *-ur*), Finnish *sakset* (pl. *-(V)t*)
   - *> *Old Saxon, Old German *sahso*, Old English *seax(e)* 'Saxon'
   - > Old Norse *saks(a)-* 'Saxon ...'
   - > Estonian, Finnish *Saksa* 'Saxony' > 'Germany'

Cf.

   - Czech *nůžky* (< "knives"), Slovak *nožnice*, Russian *ножницы **
   nožnicy*, Ukrainian *ножіці **nožycy* ("little knives")

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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