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From: Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2007.11.09 (03) [E]

 Haai, Elsie!

Subject: L-Lowlands (terminology).

Come, let us prick Ron's curiosity.

As you report, Oorlams is a rural-based creole mostly found in the Northern
Cape and Namibia,
interspersed with Nama... & Incidentally, the adjective 'oorlams' means
to be cheeky, excited, insolent.

But that's not all, & to follow the word in it's history casts in an
unforgiving light the presumption that this our South Africa ever developed
in isolation.

In the earlier years of our history you got three classes of South African
White - those straight from Nederland(ideally) were dubbed 'Vaderlands'.
Those who had acquired further polish in the Far East were dubbed 'Oorlams',
& those who had the misfortune to be born & bred in this country passed for
'Afrikaner'.

The Verklarende Afrikaanse Woordeboek (Kritzinger, Labuschagne & Nienaber)
has this to say, (in translation with the sister volume Kritzinger, Steyn,
Schoonees & Cronje'), clever, handy, shrewd, sharp, fly (*'n oorlamse
skepsel*) a Hottentot, Bushman or even Bantu well-versed in the language &
ways of white people; an old hand.

Boshoff & Nienaber (Afrikaanse Terminologie) trace it back as early as Van
Riebeek to the Malayan 'orang lama' = someone that (long ago) came (to the
Far East).

Yrs,
Mark

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Thanks a lot for educating us further about Oorlams, Mark. Very interesting!

If we had an Oorlams wren I would use this information in the accompanying
information ... 8-)

Reinhard/Ron

P.S.: I hope everything went well for your Ruth yesterday. Please give her
my love and encouragement.

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