LL-L "Phonology" 2008.04.22 (01) [E]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2008.04.21 (06) [E]

Oh, Paul, is the Pope an atheist? Funny, I never knew ;-)
But I can't help noticing how he says it more than what he says, too, and
that's not least because of his accent.
Reinhard e.a., is a typical Yiddish accent very different from a typical
German accent in American English, given that the two languages are very
close? Even Israeli Hebrew seems to have taken over that accent…
Ingmar

Paul Finlow-Bates wrote:

As an atheist, the Pope is just another guy to me, but he deserves better
than that. If he'd come from West Africa, Stewart wouldn't have mocked his
speech that way.

and Reinhard wrote:

I'm not saying that these days there are no hidden prejudices against
Germans in this country, among Jews or otherwise. (And remember that many
American Jews are German as well, which you can tell by the accents of
those that grew up in Germany, such as Dr. Ruth.)

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Ingmar,

There are many kinds of Yiddish accents, depending mostly on the Yiddish
dialect a person speaks. None, however, sounds like a Modern "Western"
German accent. The reason for this is that Modern (Eastern) Yiddish
phonology is very different, having been strongly influenced by the
surrounding languages, most of them being Slavic, others Baltic, and then
there are Hungarian (Ugric) and Romanian (Romance).

In the video to which I link below you can hear a lady talk American English
with a strong Romanian ("Bessarabian," i.e. Moldovan) Yiddish accent.

http://tinyurl.com/623ezl

It happens to be an interesting video dealing with post-war survival of
Yiddish, also mentioning persecution of Yiddish promoters in Israel's early
years.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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