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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: LL-L "History" 2008.02.28 (01) [E]

 >> I'm still packing out after my move from the Antwerp to the Brussels
area.
If I happen to find more, I will post it in the coming days.

Here is something about Bruges
http://www.euro-support.be/temp/brug1.jpg
http://www.euro-support.be/temp/brug2.jpg

scanned from pp 162-163  from:
Prof. Dr. J.A. Van Houte,
De Geschiedenis van Brugge
1982, Tielt, Lannoo

Regards,
Roger

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From: list at marcusbuck.org
Subject: LL-L "History" 2008.02.28 (01) [E]

R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com> hett schreven:

> The case of Frisian is similar, though minus the "imperialist" aspect. It
> would be interesting to come up with a mapping of and listing of sites of
> communities that used to be Frisian-speaking in the Netherlands, Belgium
and
> Germany, and perhaps Britain (and also of Frisian communities elsewhere).
> This would be another terrific project, especially if we linked this with
> the "new" language varieties of those places and looked at the possibility
> of Frisian substrata features (such as possibly the falling diphthongs we
> discussed recently). Something like this could be done at the cultural end
> of things as well, such as Frisian customs and styles surviving in
> communities in which Frisian is no longer spoken.
>
> Such projects would be very, very much in keeping with the uniting scope
and
> mission of Lowlands-L. In other words, this is where we could "shine" and
> perhaps make unprecedented contributions, even if we began in a very
modest
> way.
>
> Please think about it.
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

I am doing something similar for Low Saxon at the moment. At
<http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruker:Slomox/Plattgrenzen> I collect
geo-information on modern and former territories where Low Saxon
is/was spoken (sources for the borders are in most cases given in that
page). The result, rendered in a map, is visible under
<http://wiki.marcusbuck.org/Koort/Koort.php>. There are many areas
still lacking (mostly Plautdietsch colonies in Asia and America and
then the isolated settlements outside of the former German Reich in
Poland), but it gives a good outline of the territory.

I have not yet implemented any measure to distinguish former from
todays territory.

Similar things should be possible for Frisian too. You only need
sources for the information.

Marcus Buck

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