LL-L "Etymology" 2009.12.03 (03) [EN]

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From: Tomás Ó Cárthaigh <tomasocarthaigh at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.12.03 (02) [EN]

Mark, Facinating analysis of the Carthagh connection. It was believed as
factual history that Jesus and Joseph had come to Britian up to the 1900's
(and still held to this day by those of the extrme right) and those of that
persuasion believe the Scythians, from which we get the Indo-Europeans were
one of the lost twelve tribes, insinuating we all are decendent of the
ancient Jews.

Todays Palestinians hold the view they are descendant from Islamicised Jews,
as opposed to Arab settlers after the Islamisication of the area.

Unfortuantly those two positions are polluted too much by the extreme
nationalism to give much credence to a this stage, but perhaps in time
whatever grain of truth there is in it can be extracted and be sanititsed of
the extemeist thinking it be's used to popularise.

Conventional thinking using research of DNA today gives us a different
thinking, that those who may speak a language may not be of the stock of the
origion of the language.

Current hypothesis states the Southern Englsih of Kent to Cornwall by blood
are strongly Celtic, while the Irish are genetically strongly Basque/pre
Celtic, yet respectivly they have a Germanic language base and a Celtic
langauge base.

There was an "Iron" language in Ireland (meaning difficult) in pre Gaelic
times, spoken by the populace, but it seems sometime around 100AD there was
a shift to standard Gaelic in its old Irish format. However it is thought
that the Iron language suvuvued in areas up to 700-800 AD in a similar state
to Irish as a spoken language today.

This is often used as justification for the British presence in Ireland, as
history repeats itslef, and the Gaels got their positio in Ireland using the
same methods as the British used generations before.

Hoerver, as an Irishman I beg to differ!

Of late I have obtained a copy of "The Story of Ireland" by A.M. Sullivan,
and while much of the contents today are debunked as pseudohistory, at the
time of its writing it was recieved as being factual enough, the truh being
in all probability being somewhere in the middle of the two positions.

It outlines in the early chapters the arrival of the Gaels in different
waves from current day Galacia, a path not believed in current teaching, who
say the Celts came to Ireland from Gaul. However the genetics point to the
origional position, unless the dominant Gaels came from Gaul with the
subject peoples came from Spain.

The bible states that after the tower of Babel God confused the languages so
man could never try to claim to be as great as God, that being a sin of
gross pride, and it looks like He in His wisdom done a great job!

lol

This topic indeed is meandering, and maybe is none the worse for that!

It would be interesting to note the position of germanic legends of their
origions...

Tomás Ó Cárthaigh

*"a person with a good book is never alone... a writer until they've written
one is never at peace" *

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