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From: M.-L. Lessing <marless at gmx.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.11 (10) [E]

It helped very much, I feel completely enlightened! Thank you, Reinhard!



Marlou

From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

....


Did this help?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron


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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.12 (04) [E/F]


There's also the rather specialised use in "conning tower" on a submarine:
that's where the "man who knows" stands.



Paul

From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Hoi, beste Henno, en ek lokkich Neijier!

Folks, I should have made it more explicit that English has somewhat archaic
"ken" as a nominal cognate of *kennen*. (It is only preserved in idiomatic
phrases.) In Scots, *ken* is the ordinary word for "know", also for the
verb. *Ken* and *can* are thus relatives.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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From: wim <wkv at home.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.12 (04) [E/F]

From wim verdoold

wkv at home.nl

niederlande , Zwolle.

Hi,

Reading these mails about kennen en kunnen.

And scotish  couth;   couth reminds me  of  dutch "Kuis " not of dutch
kunnen and kennen.

And kunde ( german ) of  words like  wiskunde , aardrijkskunde ,  etc…  the
sciences    kunde being  Dutch for greek logia in these words.

Simon Stevin I think the great mathematicer came up with the word wiskunde
for mathematica.

Hopefully this added something..

Gelukkig nieuw jaar nog,

wim

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From: Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell <kevin.caldwell1963 at verizon.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.12 (04) [E/F]

Yes, English still has "ken" (as in "beyond my ken", meaning I don't know or
understand whatever is under discussion).  English also has "cunning" – is
that related?

Kevin Caldwell
From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Hoi, beste Henno, en ek lokkich Neijier!

Folks, I should have made it more explicit that English has somewhat archaic
"ken" as a nominal cognate of *kennen*. (It is only preserved in idiomatic
phrases.) In Scots, *ken* is the ordinary word for "know", also for the
verb. *Ken* and *can* are thus relatives.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron


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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Yes, Kevin. Very astute. "Cunning" does indeed belong to the "can" group, as
do "uncanny" and its base "canny".

Reinhard/Ron
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