LL-L "History" 2009.06.28 (01) [EN]

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From: Tom Mc Rae <thomas.mcrae at bigpond.com>
Subject: LL-L "History" 2009.06.27 (07) [EN]

On 28/06/2009, at 11:49 AM, Tom (Mc Rae) wrote:

One was set up outside a church in Edinburgh's High Street, probably after
1603 for market produce to be weighed prior to selling at the market
adjacent to St Giles High Church.


On reflection I can't help wondering if those devices were introduced to
Scotland much earlier  when the Flemish weavers came and set up their
communities.
Such weavers would have required a weighing device for their wool purchases.
Had the device come from England it would probably have been called a
 steelyard or steleyaird.

  Regards
Tom Mc Rae
Brisbane
AUSTRALIA
"Oh wad some power the Giftie gie us,
Tae see oorsels as ithers see us
Robert Burns

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From: M.-L. Lessing <marless at gmx.de>
 Subject: LL-L "History" 2009.06.27 (04) [EN]

 Thanks for all these interesting explanations on "Steelyard", dear Reinhard
& Tom! So "Steel-yard" was originally an English word and means something
like "Stell-Balken" or "Eisen-Balken" either for the beam itself or for the
iron counterweights. (Being a lay person, I like things simple and I like
the idea that *one* explanation is "true" :-)) And the "Easterlings", after
first taking "steelyard" as a Fremdwort and writing it "Stiliard", later
translated it naively into "Stahlhof", mistaking the true meaning. I love
this. Maybe the word was so old they couldn't make out the true etymology
even then?

Hartlich

Marlou
(Hamborg/Holsteen)

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From: Pat Reynolds <pat at caerlas.demon.co.uk>
 Subject: LL-L "History" 2009.06.26 (05) [EN]

From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com <mailto:sassisch at yahoo.com>>
Subject: Etymology

In 1988,
remnants of the Steelyard's trading house were discovered, and a plaque now
commemorates the site.

The excavation was by the Museum of London Archaeology Service, and the
finds are in the Museum of London (including a carved stone eagle).  The
deeds to cannon street station include its sale from the Hanse.
Eagle and deed were both exhibited at an exhibition on the Hanse in the
about 20 years ago at Hamburg and Rostock - interested parties might be able
to find the catalogue via a library.

I have fond memories of this exhibition, as I couriered the objects back
from Rostock, just after the Berlin Wall had fallen (but before the decision
for reunification had been taken).

Cheers,

Pat

-- 
Pat Reynolds

It may look messy now ...
        ... but just you come back in 500 years time (T. Pratchett).

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