LL-L "History" 2010.07.10 (01) [EN-NDS]

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From: Hellinckx Luc <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>

Subject: LL-L "History"



Beste Ron,



You wrote:



All this is very well and good ... Without wanting to poo-poo the said
(fine) flag effort, please allow me to play the devil’s advocate (on which
Jonny does not have the monopoly). Sure, I’m the first person to admit that
I have a religious bias. Aside from this, I do see the part about a link
with Scandinavia ... and I’m a major fan of Scandinavia myself, nay, of *all
* of the Nordic Countries (and I include Estonia, Finland, Livonia, Karelia
and the rest of what is now northwestern Russia).



Another devil's advocate here...hell gets crowded these days isn't
it...temperature sure helps.



I'm also a fan of anything remotely Scandinavian (without the religious bias
that is). Next week I intend to make a motorbike trip from Belgium to Sweden
and Finland and return via Karelia and the Baltics. What I noticed so far
though, is that if you go far enough East (Finland, Russia), the fascination
for French, Italian and even Turkish culture starts again...definitely
music-wise.



Guess you would rather substitute the cross for a captain's hat or a pan of
scouse? ;=)



Kind greetings,



Luc Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium


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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>

Subject: History

How about the Saxon horse? It's used in Northern Germany, the Eastern
Netherlands and in Kent, England. And Saxon houses tended to have the
characteristic crossed horse heads.

Snorre tells me that this horse ought to be black, that the usual white
horse represents Charlemagne. I didn't know that. I find it interesting,
though, that Kent has this white horse too, and Saxon settlement there
predates the Frankish conquest on the continent.

Another Saxon symbol is the cog ship, representing the Hanseatic Trading
League.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA


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From: Marcus Buck <list at marcusbuck.org>

Subject: LL-L "Culture" 2010.07.09 (05) [EN-NDS]



From: Jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>

Reinhard schreyv:



> I’ve just been made aware of an initiative to institute a Low Saxon (Low
German) flag:



Dat hett Aort! Un' watt 'n smukke Flagg', hoyza dii! Sou 'n Ding kaomt bii
mii 'roppen Dakk!



Weyt'st all, wokeyn daor achter steekt??



Lütt beten steiht hier:
<http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noordlandflagg><http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noordlandflagg>
.

Snorre Björkson speelt dor en wichtige Rull. Aver veel weten do ik ok nich.
Ans musst du op de plattdüütsche Wikipedia Bruker:Marieke fragen. De hett
uns Artikel schreven un de hett ok mit www.noordlandflagg.de to doon (de
Websteed hebbt se opstellt, nadem de Wikipedia-Lüüd ehr seggt hebbt, dat wi
dor nich över schrieven köönt, wenn dat ans in't Internett ans nix över de
Flagg to finnen gifft:
<http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ik_bruuk_H%C3%BClp/Archiv/2007#Nordlandflagge><http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ik_bruuk_H%C3%BClp/Archiv/2007#Nordlandflagge>
).

Ok intressant to dit Thema:
<http://nds-nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leegsaksische_vlaag><http://nds-nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leegsaksische_vlaag>

Un hier noch en Diskuschoon, bi de en poor Lüüd jemehr Ideen to en
plattdüütsche Flagg tohoopdragen hebbt:
<http://nds-nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Praotkefee/Archief/2#Nedersaksische_vlagge.3F><http://nds-nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:Praotkefee/Archief/2#Nedersaksische_vlagge.3F>

Mi persönlich gefallt disse Noordlandflagg nich so dull. Dat skandinaavsche
Krüüz un de Farven von Ollnborg... Dor fehlt mi de Betog to Plattdüütsch
allgemeen. Mien egen Ideen heff ik ja in de Diskuschoon op nds-nl.wp (Link
baven) opschreven.

Marcus Buck



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