LL-L "Etymology" 2010.05.15 (02) [EN]

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From: Danette Howland <dan_how at msn.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2010.05.13 (08) [EN]



Hello, All:



Ron wrote:



I need to add the following, just for you to think about:



Old Irish Gaelic *Púca* (> Irish English “Pooka” or “Phooka”) ‘ghost’, etc.,
related to Welsh *Pwwka*, *Pooka*, *Puka*, *Phouka*, *Púka*, *Pwca*, Cornish
*Bucca*, English *Puck*.



Which makes me wonder if the slavic "bog" in deity names such as *Czernebog,
Belobog,* etc., isn't a cognate. Some ancient Slavo-Gallic sharing, perhaps?



The original question about the word "big" reminded me of a word we use here
in Alaska (also well known in Reinhard's neck of the woods) is *skookum *which
is from the old Chinook trade lingo. According to some writers the word was
thought to refer originally to some sort of demon and now means "powerful,"
"big" or "strong." Maybe a paralell semantic development? And now that I've
brought it up, I might as well mention that I've been thinking of
contributing a Chinook Trade Language version of "The Wren."



Be well,



John Howland



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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>

Subject: Etymology

Thanks, John! It’s great to hear from you again and also to see you at our
Village Commons (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118916521473498).

That’s a very astute remark about the Slavic *bog* ‘god’ group of words,
though I wonder if the apparent “coincidence” in Celtic and Slavic points to
older, Indo-European roots. Alternatively you might consider the possibility
of a Celtic substratum in Slavic, considering the fact that some Continental
Celtic regions later became Slavic-speaking.

You would definitely get a big gold star if you came up with a Chinook
Jargon version of the Wren story (
http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/english.php), John. I know people that
dabble in Chinook Jargon, but none of them has anywhere near the knowledge
to do a translation.

Anyway, thanks again and best regards, John, also to Danette!

Reinhard/Ron

Seattle, USA



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