LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.05 (05) [DE-EN]

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From: M.-L. Lessing <marless at gmx.de>

Subject: LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.04 (02) [EN]



Hello Heiko,



I think there was a discussion here some time ago about this northern german
peculiarity. I have seen meetings fail because northern germans and people
from elsewhere had different notions about what was "diesen Dienstag" :-)
But as to what "dieser Dienstag" or "this weekend" is, it can extend into
the past as well. "Dieses" is always the named day or weekend that is
closest to the time of speaking, I think, whereas "nächstes" (future) or
"letztes" (past) is one instance farther off. If you return to your job on a
Monday you may ask your colleague "Was hast du denn dieses Wochenende
gemacht?" And he may say "Ich war im Arboretum in Ellerhoop!" You say: "Da
war ich letztes Wochenende!" Now you may switch into future: "Und was machst
du dieses Wochenende?" "Na was wohl, Pauli gegen HSV!" "Ach, ist das nicht
erst nächstes Wochenende?" -- So "dieses" is always the closest weekend, be
it future or past. Being a Hamburger, do you agree?



Pauli:HSV 3:1! :-)



Marlou



From: Heiko Evermann <heiko.evermann at gmx.de>

Subject: LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.02 (04) [EN]



Hi Marlou,

> From: M.-L. Lessing <marless at gmx.de>
> Subject: LL-L "Tradition" 2010.09.03 (02) [EN]
> Hello everyone,
> apart from the matter of calendar weeks and religious traditions, is there
> anyone living in a western country who has the feeling that a new week
> begins on sunday? I definitely have not; when I wish you "Schönes
> Wochenende" this clearly includes the Sunday; and for all the people I
know
> Monday is the first day of the new week. When somebody says "We will spend
> this weekend on Fehmarn" everybody knows they will go to Fehmarn for
> Saturday and Sunday. It would feel curious to begin a new week with a day
of
> rest. I would feel uneasy with it. Usually rest is what you need when you
> have finished something. Or what say you?
>
> Hartlich
> Marlou
Well, for us (being Seventh-Day-Adventist) we keep Saturday (Sabbath)
free from work and free from housework and Sunday is the day where we
put all the work that is left over from the week before. So of course,
it is still weekend, but it is also the beginning of our week.

But "this weekend" reminds me of another quirk: for me
* "this weekend" is the weekend that follows immediately,
* whereas "next weekend" is the weekend that follow after "this weekend".

But I freqently notice that quite some people do not see it this way
and say "next weekend" when they mean actually "this weekend".

Heiko



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