Issue of Sacrifice -- ye ixquich....

XiKano * xikano_1 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 11 14:59:58 UTC 1999


I say, Live It or Live With It - There's always the delete
button, isn't there? Or is that too much of a strain?

-XiKano


>From: "R. Joe Campbell" <campbel at indiana.edu>
>Reply-To: nahuat-l at server.umt.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list <nahuat-l at server.umt.edu>
>Subject: Re: Issue of Sacrifice  -- ye ixquich....
>Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:02:31 -0600
>
>Listeros,
>    When you join the local society for the "cultivation of anything" and
>get together on a friend's front porch to enjoy each others' company and
>talk about the cultivation of ***that*** "anything", you'd probably
>respect the ground rules about not spitting on the porch, not cussing loud
>enough for grandma to hear it from the kitchen, and not starting arguments
>that distract everybody from the purpose of being there.
>
>    Well, if anybody has walked past our porch in the last few days, they'd
>shake their head and say, "those people aren't cultivating what they got
>together to cultivate!"  The list owner has asked us to recognize that the
>"human sacrifice" theme has been run into the ground for purposes of group
>discussion.  If Mr. A. and Ms. B. want to continue it privately, that's
>their business.  So long as they, being two consenting adults, are using
>only each other's time and are not contaminating the water downstream, the
>group can go about its business, hopefully in harmony.
>
>    In any case, we should all remember that personal remarks are
>out-of-bounds (unless, of course, they are in the nature of a pat on the
>back.).  My only personal remark at this point is that I'm glad that Fritz
>has provided us this forum for the exchange of ideas, information, and
>resources about Nahuatl and the culture associated with it.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Joe
>
>p.s.  Fritz' last reminder:
>
>
> >From schwallr at selway.umt.edu Tue Aug 10 21:16:47 1999
>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:32:40 -0600
>From: "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at selway.umt.edu>
>Reply-To: nahuat-l at server.umt.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list <nahuat-l at server.umt.edu>
>Subject: Human sacrifice
>
>Dear members,
>
>The current thread on sacrifice has now moved to a point relatively far
>beyond the parameters of the list.  If you wish to continue the discussion,
>which does have merit and which I have found interesting, please do it
>off-line.  I must agree that to call any death by warfare "sacrifice"
>muddies the term in such a way as to make clear discussion meaningless.  It
>is the over-riding cultural context that must be taken into account, as the
>friars did when they quickly developed moral plays on the theme of the
>Sacrifice of Isaac by Abraham.
>
>J. F. Schwaller, List Owner
>
>
>John Frederick Schwaller
>schwallr at selway.umt.edu
>Associate Provost                                        406-243-4722
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>
>
>
>
>


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