Ometeotl

[micc2]

Dear Pedro,

While it would seem that this analysis could be valid, there are  
examples of where the numerical is not treated to the loss of the final 
part:

nahuiollin or nahui ollin.

perhaps out of convention or style the name ome teotl became one word?

What do you have as proof of ....."This conception of this trinity an[d] 
the union of it, was shared by all the people of Mesoamerica"?

I have seen one, two, four, eight, 13, 52, etc., spoken of as being 
significant often,  but I cannot remember any pre-conquest allusions to 
a "trinity"

Duality (twins, life, death...) yes.... trinity... I have not seen it

Please let me know your citations.

If there are post-conquest allusions to a trinity,  I believe that that 
would be a negotiation of theology by the indigenous people to

conform their world view to a Christian view imposed by the Spanish.

When we look at post-conquest writings (especially 1530-1690) we need to 
look for resilient negotiation and bicultural meaning when indigenous
informants speak of the divine.


respectfully,

Mario E. Aguilar, PhD
www.mexicayotl.org




Pedro de Eguiluz wrote:
> Dear List
>  
>
> Ometeotl is usually translated as "Divine two", but in Nawatl when we 
> join the word Ome "two" to another word (root) it looses the final 
> "e", for example two stones is Ontetl.
>
>  
>
> With Yei "three" happens similar when we join it to another word it 
> looses the final "i" and when we put it in the middle of two words it 
> looses also the "Y".  So in Ometeotl we have Om "two", e "three" and 
> teotl "divine". So the Ometeotl is Divine Two Three.
>
>  
>
> In the Codex Vatican 3738, page 17, we can read "...the first cause, 
> called by another name Ometekutli, that is the same as Lord of Three 
> dignities"
>
>  
>
> This conception of this trinity an the union of it, was shared by all 
> the people of Mesoamerica. Duality as we know it, good-bad arrived 
> with Cortez and his army. This good-bad conception is very poor and 
> destructive, compared to Ometeotl "Divine uni dual trinity", a higher 
> conception that was not understood by the Europeans, even now very few 
> people in the world undestand it, if any.
>
>  
>
> Regards
>
>  
>
> Pedro
>
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