Help! (second thoughts)

[Tomas Amaya]

Michael McCafferty, M Launey, thank you for
your answers. 

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Dear Michel:

You are on the way. Your statement “fulfill
a task” makes a lot of sense!

I have talked with several Nahuatl-speaking friends (my wife among them) and
the conclusions are as follows:

1.      
The verbal particle “cui” is
meaningful: he takes, he uses, he takes out. This way, when you say “nicnoyolcuitía
notlahtlacol” you are meaning: “I am making myself to take out my sins from my
heart”; in Spanish: yo me hago sacar mis pecados desde el corazón ("je
suis amené à extraire mes pëchers du fond de mon coeur"???)

2.      
(To use), example (nahuat): Yn
nehhua, ynic nitatoca ahmo niccui tepoz, cuouhpizoh in niccui. Translation: In
my case, when I sow, I do not use an iron tool, I use rather a sharp stick. 

3.      
In some regions “mocuitía” may
mean “he takes himself as”, “he recognizes himself as”, “he names himself as”,
e.g.: “on tacat chanchihua ateno, mocuitía Cuamait”. Translation: the man
who has his house near the river gives himself the name of Cuamait” 

4.      
If you think in nahuat, “mocuitia”
may mean: “he makes use of himself”; but in Zacatlan the nahuatl-speaking
people go further: “nimocuicuitia” means: “I am very busy” i.e. “I am making
use of myself a lot”. 

5.      
This way, “nonecuitil” means “my
work/duty (being performed or to be performed)”, i. e.  according to you: “my task, my task being
fulfilled, to be fulfilled  (depending on
context)”


Eureka!
Thank you again. 



Tomas Amaya 



Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:31:06 +0200
From: mlauney at wanadoo.fr
To: t.amaya at eninfinitum.com; nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
Subject: re: [Nahuat-l] Help! (second thoughts)

Thinking more about it.
 The morphological pattern seems pretty clear (ne-cuitla-hui-l-li), as I told in my preceding message.

However, I'm bothered by the context (why would the priests "make" confessions in august?

So my second hypothesis is: ni-c-no-cuitia, which for obvious reasons mostly appears in the corpus with the meaning "I confess sth.", actually has another (probably anterior) meaning such as "fulfill a task" or something like that. Any hints?

Best

M.L.

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> Tocnihuan. 
> Do you have any idea about the meaning of "ynnecuitil / yn necuitil". 
> It appears in a colonial text (end of s. XVI) I am translating. 
> The context is: "ypan agosto quichihuasque quitequipanosque yn necuitil".
> It sounds me like "commitment", do yo have any other idea?
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> Namechtlazohcamati
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