vowel duration in specific syllables

[Christophe dos Santos]

Thanks Greg (and Yvan),

Phon is so powerfull now, it is great.
Your command worked perfectly.

Thanks again,

Christophe


Le lundi 14 février 2022 à 13:27:57 UTC+1, ghedlund a écrit :

> Hello again Christophe,
>
> Yvan has directed me towards the ’Syllable type’ filter you may use to 
> make this all much simpler:
>
> Use the following form settings:
>
>  * Search tier is IPA Actual
>  * Search by syllable set to true
>  * Expression will be \v 
>  * Choose syllable type from combo box as shown below in image
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Greg
>
> On Feb 10, 2022, at 6:57 AM, Greg J. Hedlund <greg.h... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A correction, in my last expression I did not use the ‘Exact match’ flag. 
>  While this was fine for closed syllables, you will need to use this flag 
> when searching for open syllables.  So, to be consistent the expression for 
> closed syllables, with exact match selected, should be:
>
> \s?\c+(X=\v)\c+
>
> And the example form would be:
>
> <Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 6.56.02 AM.png>
>
>
> For open syllables the expression would be:
>
> \s?\c+(X=\v)
>
> <Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 6.57.35 AM.png>
>
>
> -Greg
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2022, at 6:39 AM, Greg J. Hedlund <greg.h... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Christophe,
>
> Assuming you have TextGrids setup you can do this from the Phones query. 
>  You will need to select ‘IPA Actual’ as the query tier, select ’then by 
> syllable’ in the ’search by’ settings, and enter the phonex for closed 
> syllables (one or more consonants, followed by a vowel, followed by one or 
> more consonants):
>
> \c+\v\c+
>
> If we continue with this expression, Phon will provide durations for the 
> entire syllable. We need to tell Phon to use only a portion of the 
> expression by using a named group. You may use any name, but using the 
> group name ‘X’ will make the following steps faster.
>
> \c+(X=\v)\c+
>
> Here is the example form:
>
> <Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 6.29.43 AM.png>
>
> After executing the query you will want to add the ‘Duration’ report. 
>  Since we used the group name ‘X’ above we don’t need to make any changes 
> to this form.  If you use a different name you will need to change ‘IPA 
> Actual’ in the form to be your custom group name.
>
> <Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 6.29.50 AM.png>
>
> If TextGrid data is located you should see something like below when 
> running the report:
>
> <Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 6.29.56 AM.png>
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Greg
>
> On Feb 10, 2022, at 5:15 AM, Christophe dos Santos <master... at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Greg and Yvan,
>
> I have a question about duration analysis in vowels.
> Is it possible to create a query with Phon that gives a list of vowel 
> duration from specific syllable, for example for vowels that are in closed 
> syllable, or do we have to extract all the record containing vowel in such 
> position from Phon and do it directly in Praat ?
>
> Best,
>
> Christophe dos Santos
>
>
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