[RNLD] Suggestions for simple recording devices for community members in a new MAP pilot project

[nick williams]

Hi Hugh,

Some video cameras have poor internal mics and some mics you can attach
arent great either. That is, they pick up too much noise or other sound to
get clear recording of speech. The zoom q8 is nice because it is basically
a zoom audio recorder + a video recorder. It isn’t a high end video camera.
but for most language work, you don’t need a professional video camera.

Nick

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:33 AM Hugh Paterson <hugh_paterson at sil.org>
wrote:

> Nick Williams,
>
> I'm just wondering, what would be the attributes of "bad" audio be? I'm
> never read a technology review of a "bad" piece of equipment in LD&C.
>
> all the best,
> - Hugh
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:54 PM, nick williams <n.jay.williams at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Zoom Q8 with a shotgun microphone (if you can buy fewer units and share
>> or up your budget slightly). you might be able to get a used one for under
>> $300. i know it is a bit over your budget, but they are very good and video
>> is the way to go unless people are for some reason uncomfortable with
>> video. the audio is quite good too. it has xlr inputs as well and
>> possibility of four channels total.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:17 PM Steven Bird <stevenbird1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Heather,
>>>
>>> Plenty of voice recorders support uncompressed recording. I've been
>>> using Smart Recorder, Parrot, and Hi-Q, all of which record in RIFF (=wav)
>>> format. The first two also support sample rate selection, and I choose
>>> 16kHz 16 bit mono.
>>>
>>> That's 32kB/s or ~0.1GB/h. For A$40 you can fit out your phone with a
>>> 64GB micro SD card and record for ~600 hours.
>>>
>>> -Steven
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steven Bird  http://stevenbird.net
>>> Professor, College of Indigenous Futures, Arts and Society, Charles
>>> Darwin University
>>> Linguist, Nawarddeken Academy, Kabulwarnamyo Community, Northern
>>> Territory
>>> Research Scientist, International Computer Science Institute, University of
>>> California Berkeley
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 21:10, Julia Sallabank <js72 at soas.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Heather
>>>>
>>>> I've used the Zoom H2N with community members, together with very
>>>> simplified instructions, but they still had problems with it. The easiest
>>>> thing would be to use the record or video function on mobile phones. I know
>>>> there are other communities using mobile phones for language documentation,
>>>> and phones also have the advantage of being familiar and thus intruding
>>>> less on the conversation. I know that the recording quality is mp3 not
>>>> .wav, but for language learning and MAP purposes that should not be a
>>>> problem. I would also recommend not recording at all for the first
>>>> meetings, to put people at their ease.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> Julia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 August 2018 at 23:38, Heather souter <hsouter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Taanshi!  Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Heather Souter d-ishinikaashon.  En Michif Camperville, Manitoba,
>>>>> Canada oschi niya. Daweeyiteen lii zavii.   Mahti wiichihin...
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is Heather Souter.  I am a Michif from Camperville, Manitoba,
>>>>> Canada.  I need some advice.  Please help...
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for some collective wisdom here.  I need a range of ideas for
>>>>> the lowest tech to the highest (and a few in between?!) recording devices
>>>>> to use with a group of community-based Indigenous language learners of
>>>>> widely ranging digital skill levels?  The budget is CA$ 160..?
>>>>>
>>>>> Zoom H1 and Zoom H1n have been suggested.  Any other suggestions on
>>>>> the lower  and slightly higher tech sides?  Something my non-tech savy
>>>>> elderly auntie could use and then maybe something with a XLR input?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is for an upcoming MAP pilot project..
>>>>>
>>>>> Kihchi-marsii.  Thank- you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Eekoshi pitamaa. That’s it for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heather
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Julia Sallabank
>>>> Reader in Language Policy and Revitalisation, School of Languages,
>>>> Cultures and Linguistics
>>>> Associate Director for Learning and Teaching Quality (PGT)
>>>> SOAS, University of London,
>>>> London WC1H 0XG, UK
>>>>
>>>> Tel. +44 (0)20 7898 4326
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> *Hugh Paterson III *Innovation Analyst
> *Innovation Development & Experimentation*, *SIL International*
>
> *Web*: Contact & CV <http://hughandbecky.us/Hugh-CV/>
>
>
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