Translation help

Alexander Ushakov alexush at PAONLINE.COM
Wed May 2 23:12:56 UTC 2001


The word doesn't belong to "blatnoi". It is, as was already mentioned, a
dialectism and (very) sub-standard. By the way, the conversion of 'hv'/'kv'
to 'f' and vice versa is very Ukrainian both in literary language and the
dialects, e.g. 'hvirtka' - 'fortochka', 'hvastat' - 'fastat', 'hvedir -
fedir', hvylyna - fylyna, etc. (You can get a good example of it listening
how the Ukrainian Supreme Rada's speaker I. Plushch speaks :-).

As for the resident native speaker, he/she probably read it with the accent
on a wrong syllable: na 'fa-tere. If read like this I  wouldn't guess,
either...

Alex Ushakov

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Translation help


> Carol Ueland wrote:
>
> > I have a senior who is translating two skazki as an honors project.
> > One of them is entitled "Suvorushka" from the collection "Sibirskie
> > skazki" collected by I.S. Korovkin and published in Novosibirsk in
> > 1973.  There is one word which has us stumped, even our resident
> > native speakers.  It is "na fatere" and occurs in the following
> > context: "A gde Druzhevna Korolevna?  Ona vot na fatere u babushki.
> > Togda vse troe poshli tuda".  Any suggestions would be gratefully
> > appreciated!
> >                                                             Carol
>
> An apartment or home, according to Blatnoy Slovar:
> <http://www.bratok.com/dictionary/dictionary.htm#21>
>
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