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[Edward M Dumanis]

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Alina Israeli wrote:

> Edward Dumanis <dumanis at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:

.........../snip/..........
> 
> French language to the rescue. No, "stazhirovat'sja" and "uchit'sja" are
> obviously not identical. Third graders cannot have stazhirovka.
> >Can one say "Ja stazhirujus' na kursah po povysheniju kvalifikatsii"?
> >Of course, not.
> 
> I wouldn't be so sure. Those students were actually called "slushateli" not
> "studenty" (no longer "kursisty", and certanly not "kursanty").

With all due respect, it is not a counter-example.
I did not discussed "student" but a verb that would correspond to "study"
("study abroad" to be exact).
One can "slushat' kurs lektsij" or "poseshchat' lektsii" -- which is the
same -- and be called "slushatel' " but not "posetitel' ".

No one can "stazhirovat'sja na lektsijah ili kursah."

> Bol'shoj tolkovyj slovar' (1998) gives a number of examples for "stazhirovka":
> 
> Letnjaja stazhirovka slushatelej voennoj akademii [I wonder what they are
> doing.]
> Stazhirovka molodyx prepodavatelej, nauchnyx rabotnikov za granicej.
> Stazhirovka vrachej v institute usovershenstvovanija.
> 
> AH-HA! Those doctors in "institut usovershenstvovanija" are taking courses,
> not performing postmortem.
> 

So, it does correspond the meaning of "stazhirovka," i.e. on-job training.
The proper word for Russian "stazhjor" would be "intern" or something like
this but not "student".

> I did promise French, didn't I? Well, it comes from French "stage". My
> "Petit Robert" says the following:
> 
> "Période d'étude pratique imposée aux candidats à certaines professions
> libérales ou publiques."
> 
> So "kursy povyshenija kvalifikacii", let's say Middlebury summer program as
> it relates to school teachers (not  undergrads taking a summer course)
> would be called "un stage".

Yes, but the Russian meaning of this word is somewhat different from the
French one.


Edward Dumanis <dumanis at acsu.buffalo.edu>

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