Font conversion issue: TransCyrillic

Sat Jun 28 00:17:05 UTC 2003

Dear Paul:

My wife and I decoded the Vremya font and, using
Fingertip's Character Set Converter, we can automatically
convert any Vremya text to Unicode or other Cyrillic
encodings (such as Windows 1251 or KOI8-R). Feel free to
send us your Vremya text. We'll be happy to convert it for
you to Unicode so you can use it in MSWord.
Complimentary -- no charge, of course. We'll also be glad to
help anyone else on Seelangs who has Cyrillc texts in
Vremya.

Benjamin
sher07 at mindspring.com

On 27 Jun 2003 at 18:14, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> To the computer conversion experts out there:
>
> I work in Word 2000 under Windows 2000 Professional.
>
> I've received a Word file from a client that I can read and display, but
> the main font used is "TransCyrillic," which has the following
> disadvantages:
>
> 1. The Cyrillic characters are in positions on the code page where one
> might expect Western characters, so when I select Times New Roman or any
> other modern (double-byte) font, I get boxes, punctuation marks, and
> general gibberish:
>
> ï ï ï ï ï ïï ï´ï¡ï¢ï¬ï©ï£ï¡ï¸ï ï°ï¥ï²ï©ï¯ï¤ï©ï¨ï¥ï³ï«ï¯ïªï ï³ï©ï³ï´ï¥ïï¹ï ï¯ï¬ï¥ïï¥ï®ï´ï¯ï¶ï¬ï ï©ïºï¤ï¡ï®ï®ï¹ï¸ï ï¶ï ï²ï¡ïºï®ï¹ï¸ï ï³ï´ï²ï¡ï®ï¡ï¸ï ï©ï ï¶ï
> ï²ï¡ïºï®ï¯ï¥ï ï¶ï²ï¥ïï±ï¬ï ï¨ï¡ïï¥ï ï¶ï³ï¥ï§ï¯ï¬ï ï¶ï ï®ï¡ï¨ï¡ï¬ï¥ï ï´ï¡ï¢ï¬ï©ï£ï¹ï ï°ï¥ï¨ï¡ï´ï¡ï¬ï³ï±ï ï´ï¯ï¬ï»ï«ï¯ï ï¯ï¤ï©ï®ï ï°ï¥ï²ï©ï¯ï¤ï¬ï ï¶ï ï«ï¯ï´ï¯ï²ï¯ïï
> ï²ï¡ï³ï°ï¯ï¬ï¡ï§ï¡ï¬ï©ï³ï»ï ï¯ï¬ï¥ïï¥ï®ï´ï¹ï ï¶ï¯ï¤ï¯ï²ï¯ï¤ï ï©ï ï§ï¥ï¬ï©ïªï®ï ïï¡ï¬ï¥ï¥ï¬ï ï¶ï³ï¥ï ï¯ï¬ï¥ïï¥ï®ï´ï¹ï¬ï ï®ï¡ï¨ï©ï®ï¡ï±ï ï³ï ï¬ï©ï´ï©ï±ï¬ï
>
> I can convert it to barely legible form by substituting one of the old
> Casady and Greene fonts, such as Vremya FWF or Svoboda FWF, but it's
> still not Cyrillic:
>
> V tablicax periodiheskoj sistemy /lementov, izdannyx v raznyx stranax i
> v raznoe vremq, ha]e vsego, v nahale tablicy pehatalsq tol;ko odin
> period, v kotorom raspolagalis; /lementy vodorod i gelij. Dalee, vse
> /lementy, nahinaq s litiq, ...
>
> instead of this:
>
> Ð ÑÐ°Ð±Ð»Ð¸ÑÐ°Ñ
 Ð¿ÐµÑÐ¸Ð¾Ð´Ð¸ÑÐµÑÐºÐ¾Ð¹ ÑÐ¸ÑÑÐµÐ¼Ñ ÑÐ»ÐµÐ¼ÐµÐ½ÑÐ¾Ð², Ð¸Ð·Ð´Ð°Ð½Ð½ÑÑ
 Ð² ÑÐ°Ð·Ð½ÑÑ
 ÑÑÑÐ°Ð½Ð°Ñ
 Ð¸
> Ð² ÑÐ°Ð·Ð½Ð¾Ðµ Ð²ÑÐµÐ¼Ñ, ÑÐ°ÑÐµ Ð²ÑÐµÐ³Ð¾, Ð² Ð½Ð°ÑÐ°Ð»Ðµ ÑÐ°Ð±Ð»Ð¸ÑÑ Ð¿ÐµÑÐ°ÑÐ°Ð»ÑÑ ÑÐ¾Ð»ÑÐºÐ¾ Ð¾Ð´Ð¸Ð½
> Ð¿ÐµÑÐ¸Ð¾Ð´, Ð² ÐºÐ¾ÑÐ¾ÑÐ¾Ð¼ ÑÐ°ÑÐ¿Ð¾Ð»Ð°Ð³Ð°Ð»Ð¸ÑÑ ÑÐ»ÐµÐ¼ÐµÐ½ÑÑ Ð²Ð¾Ð´Ð¾ÑÐ¾Ð´ Ð¸ Ð³ÐµÐ»Ð¸Ð¹. ÐÐ°Ð»ÐµÐµ, Ð²ÑÐµ
> ÑÐ»ÐµÐ¼ÐµÐ½ÑÑ, Ð½Ð°ÑÐ¸Ð½Ð°Ñ Ñ Ð»Ð¸ÑÐ¸Ñ, ...
>
> I typed this out by hand; even by displaying it in TransCyrillic, which
> makes it *look* like Cyrillic, I can't cut and paste to other Windows
> 2000 applications; I get the romanized stuff you saw above.
>
> This is an inconvenience, but as you can see it is not insurmountable in
> terms of reading and understanding.
>
> 2. Word's search/replace functions do not work on this font, because, no
> matter whether it is displaying Western or Cyrillic glyphs, it thinks in
> its heart of hearts that these are "symbols."
>
> 3. Modern computer-aided translation software does not recognize these
> characters as Russian words and sentences to be translated, so it throws
> up its hands and tells me I'm on my own.
>
> 4. The word count, the basis for my billing and time estimating, is only
> 1858, even though the document takes up 24 densely packed pages -- I
> estimate 250-300 words each by eye. The excerpt above looks to Word like
> "three words."
>
> Does anyone know any tricks for converting this stuff to Times New Roman
> or something else modern? If I could get it into Times New Roman Cyr,
> that would be enough because Word can understand that.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher
> pbg translations, inc.
> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> http://pbg-translations.com
>
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