Khrushchev's words and his shoe banging

pjs pscotto at MTHOLYOKE.EDU
Fri May 2 13:54:37 UTC 2003


I was a student in Lynn Visson's 2nd-year Russian class when she taught at
Columbia.  She told us then that the phrase was "My vas pokhoronim".  She
said that this was best understood to mean "We will be at your funeral
[when your system has expired and ours is triumphant]" It did not, she
argued, have the aggressive ring of "We wiil bury you" with its
implications of shovelling dirt over a still living body.

Peter Scotto


On Fri, 2 May 2003, Lauren Leighton wrote:

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> The person to ask about UN interpretation is, of course, Lynn Visson. The
> tricky original phrase translated as "We will bury you" and subsequently
> touted by U.S. propaganda as proof of Soviet aggressiveness was said by Kh
> at another time. (If I recall correctly.) I've heard that the prhase should
> have been translated as "We will outdig you," or "...outshovel you," meaning
> that Socialism would overtake and surpass capitalism. Nabokov says that when
> an idiom or slang word or phrase cannot be translated, "A footnote will
> always do." Spasibo za vnimanie!.
>
>
>
>
> Dear colleagues:
>
> I am trying to find precise information on Khrushchev's show banging in the
> UN
> Assembly. On Wednesday 12 October 1960, all national papers commented on
> Nikita Sergeyevich and his famous shoe banging.
>
>
> elenka at uvic.ca
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