Khrushchev's words and his shoe banging (fwd)

[Max Pyziur]

>From someone who is a regular at the U.N. ...



Max Pyziur                                     BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine
pyz at brama.com                                  http://www.brama.com/

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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 08:02:04 -0400
From: hanya at brama.com
To: Max Pyziur <pyz at brama.com>
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Khrushchev's words and his shoe banging (fwd)


The first thing that one would have to know is that part of the contract
that the UN countries have is that they are permitted to edit the content
of what goes on the record. The shoe banging episode, for example,
officially never happened at the UN. There is no available film of the
episode, and nothing is written about it in the UN documentation. (With
respect to this, it would be interesting to see what the possibilities are
of recovering the missing information in light of the dissolution of the USSR)

I have the exact language someplace that was approved by the USSR for the
UN logs from that session -- possibly the English and the Russian versions
both, but English for certain. I can dig it up later.

Bottom line is that you can probably get a more accurate quote from the
newspapers. Hit the microfiche records at your local library.



At 06:34 AM 5/2/03 -0400, you wrote:
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>Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 23:55:14 -0700
>From: elenka <elenka at UVIC.CA>
>Reply-To: Slavic & East European Languages and Literature list
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>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Khrushchev's words and his shoe banging
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>Dear colleagues:
>
>I am trying to find precise information on Khrushchev's show banging in
the UN
>Assembly. On Wednesday 12 October 1960, all national papers commented on
>Nikita Sergeyevich and his famous shoe banging. Apparently, Khrushchev
>protested the speech of the head of the Philippine delegation, Senator
Lorenzo
>Sumulong. In anger, he called the senator "a jerk, a stooge and a lackey of
>imperialism." In the Russian version, though, the shoe banging, it seems, was
>accompanied by a wonderful idiomatic phrase "ia vam pokazhu kuzkinu mat." I
>would very much like to find out the English translation of this phrase. I
>mean, the version they used when they had to translate it in the UN. Since
>such a phrase is extremely difficult to translate, I wouldn't be surprised if
>they used literal translation - sth like "Kuzkin's mother." In this case, it
>would be also nice to learn how the phrase can be translated into idiomatic
>English. "I'll spit into your eye" is a possible translation but it does not
>really capture the comic aspect of the Russian phrase.
>
>Have you ever come across any useful information on this?
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>
>elenka at uvic.ca
>
>

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