Patronymics

[Elena Gapova]

Yes, I agree: when she she came from roddom.
"Dangerous" event for the mother ("be careful: pevye chetyre nedeli pod
rozhenitsei mogila raskryta", a midwife said to a friend leaving the roddom)
and for the baby (who can get sick or be born with disabilitites).

e.g.

----- Original Message -----
From: Alfia Rakova <rakova at FAS.HARVARD.EDU>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: 10 June 2004 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Patronymics


> To be consistent about this "ne ispytyvat' sud'bu" one should watch the
> movie more closely. One will learn that the event described DID not take
> place "at her friend's wedding", but when after Katya came from "roddom".
> WHY?
> Because there was no namegiving in advance. Childbirth was never viewed as
a
> "dangerous" event. On the contrary, "chtob ne sglazit'" was meant to
prevent
> anything bad that might happen to this important event.
>
> A.Rakova
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elena Gapova" <e.gapova at WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Patronymics
>
>
> > The event is her friend's wedding: there is no tradition of
baby-showers,
> > and, as the superstition goes, one should not even buy baby stuff
> (nappies,
> > toys, clothes) in advance, or should buy only the very basic things (now
> > this is changing). Not to get merry too soon (ne ispytyvat' sud'bu):
> > childbirth is viewed as a "dangerous" event, and anyhting can happen.
> >
> > e.g.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alina Israeli <aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU>
> > To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
> > Sent: 10 June 2004 4:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Patronymics
> >
> >
> > > >And we see a good example of this in the film *Moscow Does Not
Believe
> in
> > > >Tears* (1979).  Katya somewhat suddenly and randomly chooses her
newly
> > > >born daughter's name at her baby shower--and it's a name that differs
> > from
> > > >the baby's actual father (But I can't quite remember if the shower is
> > held
> > > >before or after the baby's birth in her case--and I'm also blanking
on
> > the
> > > >patronymic she picks.).  And indeed nobody at the shower asks any
> further
> > > >questions...
> > >
> > > Aleksandrovna. My point precisely, it's Katja's father who was
> Alexander.
> > > --
> > > __________
> > > Alina Israeli
> > > LFS, American University
> > > 4400 Mass. Ave., NW
> > > Washington, DC 20016
> >
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