Automated glossing of BCS texts

Danko Sipka danko.sipka at ASU.EDU
Fri Oct 22 02:08:45 UTC 2004


The difference between http://www.conradish.ru and
http://cli.la.asu.edu/clitag2 is that the former site presents a set of
previously glossed literary texts while the latter allows the user to pick
up a text of her own choosing and gloss it.

As to the name of the language(s) and their distinctiveness, I believe that
the problem has the same epistemological value as the question of God's
existence. Given that no scientific method of proving one way or the other
is available, the problem belongs to the non-scholarly realm (just like the
question about God's existence) and remains the issue of politics and
political attitudes. Starting discussions about political attitudes,
normally results in ample junk mail. It is therefore better not to start.

Best,

Danko

----- Original Message -----
From: "joe phillips" <jozio at YAHOO.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Automated glossing of BCS texts


> It may of interest that something similar already
> exists at http://www.conradish.ru.  This webpage
> presents many literary works in Russian and one (Pan
> Tadeusz) in Polish.  The entire text of each work is
> linked to scroll-over lexical aids.
>
> On a side note, I'm curious if this "BCS" is the new
> convention among Slavicists or is it simply something
> that some are using as a way of avoiding nationalistic
> nuances?  I'm not currently working in constant
> contact with Slavic language professionals, so I'm
> feeling a little disconnected.  Personally, I find all
> of the current and recent variants laborious.  Does
> anyone know if there is historical precedent for
> dealing with this sort of issue?
>
> Having studied "BCS" and had ample exposure to
> Bosnians, Croatians, and Serbs, I find the claims of
> some that the languages are separate and distinct
> tenuous.  Using the manner of arguments I've read, one
> could just as easily make a case for American, New
> Zealander, British, and Australian English being
> separate and distinct languages.  ANBA?
>
> Is there/has there been any discussion regarding the
> name of this language(s), or are we doomed to struggle
> with these mouthfuls as long as we live?  I dream of
> one-word variants such as "Dinarian"...
>
> --- Danko Sipka <danko.sipka at ASU.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Dear Seelangers,
>>
>> You may be interested to take a look at
>> http://cli.la.asu.edu/clitag2, a preliminary testing
>> version of the script which enables the user to
>> paste any Bosniac/Croatian/Serbian (BCS) text in
>> cp-1250 (Windows Central European), e.g., from the
>> newspapers like http://www.danas.co.yu,
>> http://www.novilist.hr, etc., and have it
>> automatically tagged with the English glosses and
>> additional possibility to expand all inflected BCS
>> words. At present, the script covers over 90% of a
>> typical newspaper text. When finished the script is
>> meant to facilitate early classroom inclusion of
>> authentic materials and reconciliation of task-based
>> instruction with the focus on form (focusing on form
>> becomes a part of the task). The resulted tagged
>> text can be downloaded and edited. More elaborate
>> explanations can be found at
>> http://cli.la.asu.edu/clitag2.
>>
>> I plan to develop analogous resources for Russian
>> and Polish pending financial support for the
>> project.
>>
>> I would appreciate any comments off-list at
>> Danko.Sipka at asu.edu.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Danko
>>
>> Danko Sipka
>> Research Associate Professor and Acting Director
>> Critical Languages Institute (http://cli.la.asu.edu)
>> Arizona State University
>> E-mail: Danko.Sipka at asu.edu
>> Web: http://www.public.asu.edu/~dsipka
>>
>>
>>
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