khmyr'

[Alina Israeli]

Not quite appearance only (although I agree with Stephen Young, that
"Khmyr' would be the lengthened grade to the base found in khmurit',
khmuryi.", so the appearance or demeanor is important), but Elizabeth is
right that it is usually said about someone we don't know well and don't
like:

Стоят на остановке
у зоопарка два хмыря, ожесточённо спорят: ...
blog.trg.ru/keys/%F1%EB%EE%ED


 Пришел какой-то хмырь, спросил, во сколько Игорь приехал, во сколько
уехал... ...
www.polyakova.ru/main.phtml?menu=read& book_id=10&num_str=118

Увидел Настю, которая обнималась с каким-то хмырем. Порадовался ...
www.nastyatsvetaeva.ru/phorum/read.php?1,5951,page=2

And so on.

I could say about a woman "ona prishla so svoim xmyrem" (my disaproval of
her husband or boy-friend), but I cannot say it, I think, about someone
whom I know independently (name, rank, serial number): ?Xmyr' prishel kak
vsegda s opozdaniem. Unless this is his standard nickname.

AI

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Elizabeth M. Sheynzon wrote:
>
>> While looking for an English equivalent, don't forget that the word --
>>whichever nuances you
>> attribute to it -- refers primarily and probably solely to the
>>appearances, the looks, and not an
>> essence. You wouldn't say that after a year of knowing somebody you
>>found out he was a "khmyr'",
>> but you would say "kmyr'" about someone you don't really know (or don't
>>want to know) and are not
>> prepared to like.
>
>I disagree.
>A quick search of usage on Yanex gave, e.g.,
>"ja emu ot chistogo serdtsa, a on moi blinchiki zhrat'!!!!!!!!!!nu ty
>khmyr'!!!!!!!!"
>Quoted from
>http://forum.buzuluk.ru/viewtopic.php?p=6703&sid=14e6af873e6869b93d91dcded2544d
>d9
>
>Clearly, it is not an appearance here.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Edward Dumanis <dumanis at buffalo.edu>

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