translating colloquial word

[David Powelstock]

I'm still not sure I have a very good grip on the connotations of the word.
It seems to have elements of "sad sack," "sourpuss," "lowlife," and "loser."
Perhaps someone could try to locate "khmyr'" among these reference points?

David
P(owelstock)

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> [mailto:SEELANGS at listserv.cuny.edu] On Behalf Of Russell Valentino
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:00 PM
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> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] translating colloquial word
>
>  From what has come out in discussion, it seems that for many
> of the connotations the word evokes, "low-life" would be
> pretty good: the low-lifes hanging out at the subway station;
> she came with her low-life husband. It emphasizes the
> distance and the lack of desire to get closer on the
> speaker's part, and it's not quite as dated as poor sap or sad sack.
>
> At 12:42 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
> >Dear colleagues:
> >
> >Does anyone out there know a good English equivalent for
> KHMYR'?***  Is
> >it possible that "Sad Sack" would work?  Or "Poor Sap"?
> >_ _ _  _
> >
> >  *** In my Russian film studies I've run across this curious word,
> >used  like a name, on two  occasions :  (1) SCHASTIE ('35
> Medvedkin),
> >where Khmyr' is played by Petr Zinov'ev);
> >(2) DZHENTELMENY UDACHI ('71 Seryi), Khmyr' played by the
> late Georgii
> >Vitsin).
> >
> >Gratefully,
> >Steven P Hill,
> >University of Illinois.
> >_ __ __ _ __ __ __ __ __ __ _ __ _
>
> Russell Valentino
> Associate Professor
> Program in Russian
> Department of Cinema and Comparative Literature University of
> Iowa Tel. (319) 353-2193 Fax (319) 353-2524
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