two questions in the translation realm

[Russell Valentino]

Another, similar, way to approach this is to look for works, similar in voice, 
register, etc., that have been published in English and collect examples. I 
don't know the register of the text in question, but I seem to recall some long 
cursing-contest passages (with mothers involved), along explanations of the 
method/art, in Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls. I'm sure there are other 
examples from more contemporary lit.

Quoting Kenneth Brostrom <ad5537 at WAYNE.EDU>:

> >Dear Seelangers!
> >I am working on some translations from Ukrainian into English for my 
> >Master's Thesis at UNL. Hilda Raz and Mila Saskova-Pierce suggested 
> >I post my questions here:
> >
> >1) a technical question: how do you translate the verb "materit'sia" 
> >(to curse in the uniquely Russian manner) into English? I have a 
> >good dictionary, but it has very proper sensibilities....
> >
> 
> 
> In translation, context is everything.  If you are looking for an 
> English equivalent of this verb that includes the notion of the 
> mother, and that lexicographers would accept, you have a problem. 
> However, in particular contexts, African American English (a culture 
> that values the mother in terms comparable to the Russian tradition) 
> has expressions that you might use, and they would be understood 
> immediately by every native speaker of English.
> 
> Ken Brostrom

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