on to "vicarious"

[Seifer Donna]

How about "виртуально?"   Denezhkina uses "поженились виртуально" в рассказе
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Donna T. Seifer
Lewis & Clark College
Portland, OR 97219

On 4/18/06 10:20 AM, "Condee" <condee at PITT.EDU> wrote:

> I agree, Alina, and would only add that the English is intentionally
> non-normative as well, and therein lies the double burden.
> 
> Thanks to all who submitted ideas, both posted and direct to me.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Alina Israeli
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> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] on to "vicarious"
> 
>> I thought about the same term "oposredovannyj" but it seems that in this
>> context Kenneth Katzner's dictionary has a better solution. It gives
>> "chuzhoj" as the translation of "vicarious."  Then "Vicarious Catastrophe"
>> becomes "Chuzhaja avarija."
> 
> I'd like to disagree with Katzner. "chuzhoj" is opposed to "svoj" in
> Russian: Chuzhaja nosha ne tjanet, Svoja rubashka blizhe k telu. Someone
> else's has no effect on you. Vicarious, on the other hand, is what you
> experience second-hand, so to speak. One may get vicarious pleasure from
> gift giving, for ex. Cambridge dictionary gives "vicarious thrill from
> watching motor racing". Granted, vacarious is more common in English, but
> so are many other psychological terms. While it's possible to find
> "opsredovannoe udovol'stvie", it's not so easy with catastrophes, because
> in this case Russians "sochuvstvujut" or "soperezhivajut".
> 
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