on to "vicarious"

[Maryna Vinarska]

I would go away from the word catastrophe at all, if it is a title, to avoid all those associations the reader may get if you combine it with "virtualnyj". 
I would say: "V mire televizionnykh strastej" or "V mire televizionnykh dram", or "V mire televizionnykh tragedij". Sure, if I understood correctly what the article is supposed to be about. Then I would simply give a subtitle, smth like: Chto my chuvstvyem, kogda vidim chuzhoe gore na ekrane, or smth like this.
MV

Condee <condee at PITT.EDU> wrote: I agree, Alina, and would only add that the English is intentionally
non-normative as well, and therein lies the double burden.

Thanks to all who submitted ideas, both posted and direct to me.

Prof. Nancy Condee, Director
Graduate Program for Cultural Studies
2206 Posvar Hall
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260
412-624-7232


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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] on to "vicarious"

>I thought about the same term "oposredovannyj" but it seems that in this
>context Kenneth Katzner's dictionary has a better solution. It gives
>"chuzhoj" as the translation of "vicarious."  Then "Vicarious Catastrophe"
>becomes "Chuzhaja avarija."

I'd like to disagree with Katzner. "chuzhoj" is opposed to "svoj" in
Russian: Chuzhaja nosha ne tjanet, Svoja rubashka blizhe k telu. Someone
else's has no effect on you. Vicarious, on the other hand, is what you
experience second-hand, so to speak. One may get vicarious pleasure from
gift giving, for ex. Cambridge dictionary gives "vicarious thrill from
watching motor racing". Granted, vacarious is more common in English, but
so are many other psychological terms. While it's possible to find
"opsredovannoe udovol'stvie", it's not so easy with catastrophes, because
in this case Russians "sochuvstvujut" or "soperezhivajut".

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