podkidnoy durak

[Edward M Dumanis]

I think that "UNO" might be functionally equivalent with "DURAK" in some
sense. I assume here that "podkidnoj" (more fun, more interpersonal
interaction) is not essential here.

Sincerely,

Edward Dumanis <dumanis at buffalo.edu>

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Emily Saunders wrote:

> For what it is worth this game (described as "President" on the website  
> you give) I have actually played in Russia under another name -- Govno,  
> I think.  It's a bit like the card game "Bullshit" -- and I apologize  
> for the epithets, but these are the names of the games -- however, the  
> key elements include changing seats at the end of each round and the  
> exchange of cards according to the "social status" obtained during the  
> last hand.  I have some uproarious memories of playing Govno with a  
> huge group of friends on a Primorsky beach in the summertime, with us  
> kicking sand all round at the end of each hand as we switched places...
> 
> The associations I've always had with Durak is that it is a  
> college-student (possibly army recruit), on long train trips, visiting  
> grandparents type of card game.  It's perhaps a bit of a working class  
> game, but I would say that it lacks the strong childhood associations  
> that games like Go Fish, Old Maid, and Crazy 8's have for your average  
> American card player.
> 
> (Erik:  Thanks for the www.pagat.com website address -- I was delighted  
> to find rules for tysyacha (1000) there.  Memories from college dorm  
> late-night card sessions come flooding back...)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Emily Saunders
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Erik McDonald wrote:
> 
> > There is a card game played in the US that is somewhat similar to  
> > "podkidnoi durak," though it isn't the same.  Its unliterary name - I  
> > know it as "Asshole" - and its social status as a drinking game rather  
> > than a children's game might make it unsuitable for the Grossman  
> > translation.  The rules can be found at  
> > http://www.pagat.com/climbing/asshole.html, which gives some less  
> > offensive names for it as well.  That site puts it in a different  
> > classification than Durak (the same site's Durak rules, as Anthony  
> > Qualin wrote, can be found at  
> > http://www.pagat.com/beating/durak.html), but at least it isn't a  
> > trick-taking game.  As in Durak, the last person with cards left loses  
> > and becomes the name of the game.
> >
> > Erik McDonald
> >
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