Russian Germans

Mon Mar 13 10:08:52 UTC 2006

This debate is still active among the Russian-Germans themselves.
some like to be called Russlanddeutsche, others like
Deutsch-Russen, some are disparaging and talk of 
Sowietdeutsche, and a new word is trying to creep in now
which I quite like as it is very descriptive:
Tzarendeutsche, Tzarskie-nemtzy =
who are Russlanddeutsche who had not 'tainted' themselves by
living under Soviet regime by fleeing ca. 1918-1922.
All very political I am afraid - and all very loaded terminology....
you either hate it or love it.
Socialogists love this shading of meanings.

Vera B-M

Original Message:
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From: KatarinaPeitlova peitlovakatarina at TISCALI.IT
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:47:37 +0100
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: [SEELANGS] Russian Germans

"Russian Germans" -  russkie nemcy - we mean only Germans living in Russia 
-  they are usually Russian citizens but German "nationality"
(nacional'nost'). That's a  particularity of  multiethnical political
systems we still have in Central Europe - see Czech and Slovak Republics,
where is rather normal to hear "Slovak  Hungarian" - Slovensky Madar or
Madarsky Slovak - " Hungarian Slovak , we mean
a  citizen of Slovak Republic   but  has a Hungarian nationality or
contrary - in Hungary they live persons who are Slovaks so we call them 
Madarski Slovaci
Hungarian Slovaks.
In Jugoslavija live Srbski Slovaci (Slovak nationality but Serbian
Citizens) and so on. 
This "duality" did exist even in ancient Austrian-Hungarian monarchy,were
the people were distinguished by their "mother tongue" - f.e. you could
have been an Austrian citizen and Hungarian mother tongue.Or Czech mother
tongue.

Katarina Peitlova,PhDr.
Italy

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