In the beginning

[Tatyana Buzina]

Hello,
I have to confess, "uvazhat' sebia zastavit'" meaning "to die" is something I haven't been familiar with, and it was very interesting to see the link Alina Israeli provided, but I would like to see some examples from pre-Eugene Onegin times. If anybody could provide those I would be very grateful. 
Sincerely,
Tatyana

>Dear Svetlana,
>
>If the uncle still alive, Pushkin in the line in question ("on uvazhat'
>sebia zastavil") plays with "face value" and idiomatic meanings of the
>phrase.  He uses this techniques quite often, especially in his epigrams.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Yevgeny Slivkin
>
> 
>
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>[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Svetlana Grenier
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>Dear Yevgeny,
>
>When Onegin is "letia v pyli na pochtovykh" he does not know that his uncle
>is dead (as I pointed out in my first e-mail) and is expecting to spend some
>time "poluzhivogo zabavlia[ia]".  We find out what actually happened in ch.
>I, LII.  Which means that at least in this instance the phrase does not mean
>"kick the bucket".
>
>Regards,
>Svetlana Grenier
>
>Slivkin, Yevgeny wrote:
>
>>Dear colleagues,
>>
>>I believe the key to the beginning of "Onegin" is the subjunctive mood 
>>which is implied.
>>"No bozhe moy, kakaia skuka poluzhivogo zabavliat'..." thinks Evgenii, 
>>imagining what would have happed if the uncle had not kicked the bucket!
>>That is in English translation this line should be rendered as that, 
>>"But what a boredom it would be to entertain a living corpse..."
>>The uncle is already dead. In Pushkin's time "  zastavit' sebia uvazhat'"
>>meant only one thing - "to kick the bucket".
>>
>>
>>
>>Yevgeny Slivkin
>>
>>  
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
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>>[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Genevra Gerhart
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 5:46 PM
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>>Subject: [SEELANGS] In the beginning
>>
>>http://speakrus.ru/articles/uncle1.htm
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>>
>>Genevra Gerhart
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>>ggerhart at comcast.net
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>>www.genevragerhart.com
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>>www.russiancommonknowledge.com
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Tatyana V. Buzina,
Associate Professor, Chair,
Dpt. of European Languages,
Institute for Linguistics,
Russian State U for the Humanities

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