Translation query

[Kim Braithwaite]

Tiny follow-up: -- the-AY-ter was a very common pronunciation, perhaps even 
the most common, long before the mid c20. You can probably still hear it on 
the lips of country folks.

BTW, the song I referred to is "Strip Polka," by the immortal Johnny Mercer 
and recorded by the Andrews Sisters. Still popular on the radio during WW2.

Kim etc.....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helen Halva" <hhalva at MINDSPRING.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Translation query


>I agree with Mr. Braithwaite's suggestion of "the-AY-ter", but my 
>experience was in the mid-20th century and I can't say whether the 
>pronunciation was also pertinent to the early 20th c.
>
> Helen Halva
>
>
>
> At 12:16 PM 4/21/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>>Possibly the-AY-ter might work. In the prosto socioeconomic milieu of my 
>>boyhood that's the way we pronounced it until Miss Fidditch corrected us 
>>in the fifth grade, wielding her ruler across the knuckles. And there was 
>>a semi-popular song about a burlesque show ("Take it off!") whose meter 
>>required that pronunciation. Just a thought.
>>
>>Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator
>>
>>"Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" - Mammy Yokum (Al Capp)
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <trubikhina at AOL.COM>
>>To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
>>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 11:38 AM
>>Subject: [SEELANGS] Translation query
>>
>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>I am translating a review of an early futurist art exhibition for a 
>>>publication. One of the dismissive descriptions that the author is using 
>>>is "kiyater," which is the "prostonarodnoe" or criminal slang word for 
>>>"teatr" (theater). It is used ironically obviously, and such use of 
>>>"kiyater" can also be encountered in satirical pieces by Teffi or in the 
>>>actual or stylized speech of Gilyarovsky's criminal characters. What 
>>>would be a distorted English word that an uneducated person of that time 
>>>(late 19th-early 20th century) might have used?
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Julia Trubikhina
>>>
>>>Assistant Professor of Russian
>>>Russian Program Coordinator
>>>Department of Modern Languages and Literatures
>>>Montclair State University
>>>Dickson Hall, Room 138
>>>Montclair, NJ 07043
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