Translation query
Pangloss Publishing
jane.chamberlain at GMAIL.COM
Sun Apr 22 15:31:30 UTC 2007
I often hear it on the lips of my husband, an urban-dwelling East
Texan with a B.A. from the University of Texas.
Jane Chamberlain
>Tiny follow-up: -- the-AY-ter was a very common pronunciation,
>perhaps even the most common, long before the mid c20. You can
>probably still hear it on the lips of country folks.
>
>BTW, the song I referred to is "Strip Polka," by the immortal Johnny
>Mercer and recorded by the Andrews Sisters. Still popular on the
>radio during WW2.
>
>Kim etc.....
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Halva" <hhalva at MINDSPRING.COM>
>To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Translation query
>
>>I agree with Mr. Braithwaite's suggestion of "the-AY-ter", but my
>>experience was in the mid-20th century and I can't say whether the
>>pronunciation was also pertinent to the early 20th c.
>>
>>Helen Halva
>>
>>
>>
>>At 12:16 PM 4/21/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Possibly the-AY-ter might work. In the prosto socioeconomic milieu
>>>of my boyhood that's the way we pronounced it until Miss Fidditch
>>>corrected us in the fifth grade, wielding her ruler across the
>>>knuckles. And there was a semi-popular song about a burlesque show
>>>("Take it off!") whose meter required that pronunciation. Just a
>>>thought.
>>>
>>>Mr Kim Braithwaite, Translator
>>>
>>>"Good is better than Evil, because it's nicer" - Mammy Yokum (Al Capp)
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <trubikhina at AOL.COM>
>>>To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 11:38 AM
>>>Subject: [SEELANGS] Translation query
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I am translating a review of an early futurist art exhibition for
>>>>a publication. One of the dismissive descriptions that the author
>>>>is using is "kiyater," which is the "prostonarodnoe" or criminal
>>>>slang word for "teatr" (theater). It is used ironically
>>>>obviously, and such use of "kiyater" can also be encountered in
>>>>satirical pieces by Teffi or in the actual or stylized speech of
>>>>Gilyarovsky's criminal characters. What would be a distorted
>>>>English word that an uneducated person of that time (late
>>>>19th-early 20th century) might have used?
>>>>
>>>>Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Julia Trubikhina
>>>>
>>>>Assistant Professor of Russian
>>>>Russian Program Coordinator
>>>>Department of Modern Languages and Literatures
>>>>Montclair State University
>>>>Dickson Hall, Room 138
>>>>Montclair, NJ 07043
>>>>
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