Informal poll

colkitto colkitto at ROGERS.COM
Tue Apr 24 04:44:11 UTC 2007


oooppss

that was a personal message, although I don't suppose there was any harm 
sending it to the list .....


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From: "colkitto" <colkitto at ROGERS.COM>
To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Informal poll


> thanks!
>> sarych? haven't heard of it. katerina siskron
>
> here's my reply
>
>
> Many thanks for your responses.  I am currently just putting the finishing
> touches to a review of
>
> Jagdwörterbuch Russisch-Deutsch by Irmgard Lorenz. München: Verlag Otto
> Sagner, 2005. 181 pp.
>
> and it includes the entry for сарыч
>
> I intend to say something like
>
> "Many of the terms included are obscure even to native speakers of 
> Russian.
> On a personal note, it is interesting to see сарыч [sarych] (139), glossed
> as ‘Bussard’ Buteo ‘buzzard’.   In the part of  the English-speaking world
> where I hail from a primary connotation of  'buzzard' is 'one step below 
> the
> golden eagle in the raptor hierarchy', and people who claim to have seen
> eagles (which are rather rare, and nearly all in remoter parts of the
> Highlands), are usually believed to have seen buzzards.'
>
> The closest encounter I myself have had with a golden eagle was on Fionn
> Bheinn above Achnasheen (it took off from under my feet), but afterwards
> several people told me it must have been a buzzard [my father and uncle
> quite forcefully].  I related this to a correspondent in Russia and was 
> told
> "А слова сарыч никогда не слышала", [a slovo sarych nikogda ne slyshala"],
> and something similar has been repeated several times when this anecdote 
> is
> recounted.  An informal poll of people with a sophisticated knowledge of
> Russian [more sophisticated than my own - RAO] suggests that сарыч may be
> quite an obscure lexeme, more so than 'buzzard' in English.'
>
> There's also a form канюк [kanyuk], which appears to be a synonym.
>
> Tatyana, special thanks for drawing my attention to Uncle Remus in 
> Russian.
> There is a Mr. Buzzard. This opens up a fresh line of inquiry.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Robert
>
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