russkogovojrschije and russkojazychnyje

Tatyana Buzina tbuzina at YANDEX.RU
Fri Jun 1 11:06:30 UTC 2007


Some native speakers of Russian have trouble formulating the difference off the bat. Their first impulse is to say that there's no difference. The difference they ultimately propose  is that "russkogovoriashchie" means anybody who speaks Russian regardless of its quality ("russkogovoriashchii gid"; it doesn't matter if the tour guide stumbles over every word); "russkoiazychnye" are native speakers of Russian.
regards,
Tatyana

01.06.07, 00:21, Alina Israeli <aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU>:

> I would like to somewhat  disagree (which does not mean that I am  
> correct). I think this is an attempt to make a calque from French  
> (whether he knows it or not) where they distinguish Francophone and  
> Francofile, those who speak it natively vs. those who are not native  
> but fluent and certainly not a Francophobe.
> So, I think they want to make sure that there are a lot more  
> Russophone, i.e. educated native speakers, not just speakers of  
> kitchen Russian, and against their assimilation into other cultures.
> On May 31, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Olga Meerson wrote:
> >  The basic difference is simple: russkogovoriashchie are people who  
> > speak Russian but don't read or write in it and have had no, or  
> > have been deprived of, education in Russian, books, papers, all the  
> > works. Simply illiterate heritage speakers. Eusskoiazychnye are  
> > literates.
> > o.m.
> >
> Alina Israeli
> LFS, American University
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