Short Adjective Inquiry

[Frans Suasso]

In the Grammarbook which I hüve been consulting since the mid-sixties 
(E.Tauscher, E.G. Kirschbaum: (Grammatik der russischen Sprachen Leipzig , 
Volk und Wissen, several editions since 1960) I read on  pp 149/150:





2. Keine Kurzformen haben Qualitätsadjektive auf -ский ской 
und –овый, -евый,- овой, -вой, sowie einige Qualitätsadjective auf –ный, - 
нóй, z.B врáжеский (eindlich; дрýжеский freundschaftlich;  передовóй ( 
ortschrittlich;  дéльный (vernünftig;  отдéльный gesondert,einzeln; роднóй 
verwandt;  старинный alt, altertümlich.



3. Keine Kur\formen haben abgeleitete  Farbadjective, z.B. голубóй 
himmelblau, (hell)blau; коричневый,  braun, zimtfarben; рóзовый, rosa, 
rosig..



4. Keine Kurzformen haben haufig von Verben abgeleitete Adjective auf -лый 
z.B устарéлый  veraltet, unmodern; умéлый eschickt, gewandt; отсталый 
rückständig; осиротéлый verwaist.



5. Keine Kurzformen haben Adjective, die auf Steigerungsformen zurückgehen, 
z.B:  большой gross; старший in der Bedeutung “erstgeboren”;  младший in der 
Bedeutung

“letztgeboren”.





That should settle the the question abou short adjectives.



Frans Suasso, Naarden the Netherlands



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Langran" <john at RUSLAN.CO.UK>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Short Adjective Inquiry


> Also perhaps "ty zelen" - "you are green (inexperienced)"
>
> Perhaps the rule to give to students is that when you meet short form 
> adjectives of colour they are likely to be either from poetic/literary 
> sources, or sayings, or as my example with a figurative meaning. And of 
> course than non-native speakers shouldn't invent them.
>
> What other adjectives have no short form? In my list I have:
> adjectives of time and place - vechernii, dnevnoy, mestny (?)
> adjectives that denote substances - chugunny, zolotoy, derevyanny
> adjectives in "-ovy", mainly from trees, plants, etc - vishnyovy, lipovy, 
> oblepikhovy etc.
> ordinal numbers - pervy, vtoroy
> adjectives in -ski  - angliisky etc
> possessive adjectives eg - volchii
>
> John Langran
> www.ruslan.co.uk
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Katya Jordan" <yvj2p at VIRGINIA.EDU>
> To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Short Adjective Inquiry
>
>
>> "Sinij" is definitely not the only adjective that has short forms, but it 
>> is the only one that has an interesting form.  However, if you're looking 
>> for other short-form color adjectives, they seem to be used only in set 
>> expressions, poetry, and proverbs, if they are used at all: Khorosh 
>> vinograd, da zelen;  Ne krasna izba uglami, a krasna pirogami, just to 
>> name a couple.
>>
>> When it comes to ordinary everyday speech, they are used rarely, and 
>> "zholty" and "sine" would sound just as awkward as "golubo" and 
>> "fioletov." The only short color adjective that I do use and I heard 
>> others use is "belo" in a phrase "na ulitse belym-belo."
>>
>> Katya Jordan
>>
>> Department of Slavic Languages & Literatures
>> University of Virginia
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