V/na firme

Robert Lagerberg robertjl at UNIMELB.EDU.AU
Wed May 28 02:03:25 UTC 2008


Thanks for your responses which are very helpful.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, perhaps the font doesn't work - the other
problem was with Alaska. It was with regard to this word (Аляска) that I was
wondering if the difference in usage (v/na) was between (US) state and
geographical territory.

I have to say I was surprised to learn that na firme was preferred by our
native speaker, so it definitely seems to be used and preferred by at least
some Russians.

Thanks,
Robert


> From: Dustin Hosseini <dustin.hosseini at GMAIL.COM>
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> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 05:46:26 -0500
> To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] V/na firme
> 
> Dear Robert,
> 
> I asked both of my colleagues, who are both native speakers of Russian, and
> they both gave 2 different answers: one agreeing with yours, and one that's
> just the opposite of what you gave.
> 
> But, one did insist, as you've stated, that 'v' is used when speaking of it
> as a state "Ya rabotayu v firme" but "na" is used when thinking of it in
> geographic terms: "Ya sejchas na firme" i.e. "I'm at the company right now"
> 
> Then there was another variant... "Ya rabotayu NA firmu" = "I work *for* the
> company"
> 
> If this is a bit too confusing, or the answer is hard to find, then you
> could always just use "kompaniya" as it's used far more often according to
> Google (514 million hits compared to 113 million for 'firma').
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Dustin  
> 
> 
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 09:40:26 +1000, Robert Lagerberg
> <robertjl at UNIMELB.EDU.AU> wrote:
> 
>> Could anyone offer any advice about what is more standard/correct in Russian
>> at the moment, â or íà ôèðìå? Would there be any alteration with various
>> adjectives/modifiers, say, â/íà òóðôèðìå, â/íà êàêîé ôèðìå âû ðàáîòàåòå?
>> 
>> With Àëÿñêà, am I right in thinking that both are used, â preferred when
>> thinking of it as a state, íà when thinking of it as geographical territory?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
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