how would you translate this word

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At 03:35 AM 12/4/2009, you wrote:
>In response to this I would respectfully suggest 
>that Ñ
ам [cham]* is itself perhaps an 
>'old-school' word.  At any rate it is the sort 
>of word I associate with persons of a certain 
>age and disposition bemoaning the declining 
>standards of behaviour among the younger 
>generation.  For this reason I would be somewhat 
>cautious about using some of the stronger terms 
>that have been suggested, and especially those with overt sexual connnotations.
Thank goodness someone finally wrote the word in 
an alphabet I can get in my Eudora.   Cham was one of my many guesses.
Okay, first of all, the word comes from the Old 
Testament Kham, traditionally spelled Ham in 
English.  This word was used in english as
well, but is truly obsolete in that meaning.
How about "nimrod"--another OT character, and a 
word I have actually heard used by the "narod" in contemporary AmEnglish.
Jules Levin






>John Dunn.
>
>* Dr Johnson was at one time known as the Great 
>Cham of Literature, though here the word is, 
>apparently, a corruption of 'khan'.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Kingdom <k2kingdom at GMAIL.COM>
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>Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:54:55 +0200
>Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] how would you translate this word
>
>If you want to use modern English and not go all old-school, I'd suggest:
>Tool.
>
>
>
>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Katya Burvikova
><seacoastrussian at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > how would you translate word "Ñ
ам" in 
> English? Is there any equivalent noun
> > (not adjective)?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Ekaterina Burvikova
> >
> >
> >
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